240-3-3

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  1. exocet76

    exocet76 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Agree. Fought a lot less than the others and waited for people to slow done as well as being manufactured for the media. He is ATG and one of the best at Welter but slight asterix for me.
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

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    When SRL beat Benitez Wilfred was 38-0-1, Duran 72-1, Hearns 32-0 and Hagler 62-2-2. 204-3-3 i reckon so maybe it's a typo and 240 should have been 204.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The numbers do not mean much.
     
  4. Pugguy

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    Thanks John. My bad, I took some wrong short cuts in my haste. 204 is perfect and if we add Kalule’s 36 fights, we have 240. Didn’t realise Duran already had 73 fights before Leonard. That’s unreal. Apologies to the OP.
     
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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course they do.
     
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  6. Pugguy

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    Funny looking at such stats. AS IF, like some super comic book character, you immediately inherit all the power and worth of those you vanquish as and when.

    The numbers are impressive but at least in the case of Hagler, and perhaps also Duran to a degree, timing can be everything. Great fighters with big numbers (min. losses) behind them over many years can be reasonably calculated to be moving ever closer to an eventual loss.

    Aside from their obvious quality otherwise, as far as their records go, Duran and Hagler were huge scalps. Suffice to say, Monzon made sure that no one “inherited” or “absorbed” his long and hard earned record. He took it away with him, completely.
     
  7. Saintpat

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    That must mean Hagler is really overrated.

    Ray was years away from the sport, a drug addict, got knocked out in sparring against a journey a couple of days before, had undergone serious eye surgery and still spanked that bald man.
     
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  8. Pugguy

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    Could you elaborate on that sparring incident? I heard/read something like that years back but nothing beyond what you have written.

    Also, was that supposed to have occurred during one of those fully fledged fights Ray was supposed to have had in the gym against LHs? I doubt he would’ve indulged in same so close to the fight, so this alleged incident, if it did happen, likely occurred in what was supposed to be light sparring?
     
  9. Saintpat

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    It was days before the fight, final week of preparation. Quincy Taylor was the sparring partner. As Ray explains here, his game plan was the slug with Hagler, thinking he could bust up Marvin’s scar tissue.

    After the sparring incident, he changed his plan and decided to box.

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  10. red corner

    red corner Active Member Full Member

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    Leonard has the best collection of wins over a 30 year period. Its the one thing Hagler, Duran and Hearns fan can agree on.Throw in Benitez too.
     
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  11. Pugguy

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    Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I’ll have a look see when I get the chance.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

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    Oh, don't call him John. We all know he knew exactly what he was doing with that profile name.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Oh don't be such a ****ing cauliflower!!
     
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  14. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I say!
     
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  15. Pugguy

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    Fair enough. I didn’t mean to sell him short by using only half his name. How about JT Trouser Snake? That’s even more letters to get tattooed on his Johnson.
     
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