29 Year old Pacman vs. 29 Year old Julio Cesar Chavez

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  1. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    JCC fought taxi drivers his whole career. People need to open their eyes. Pac had a more complete resume years ago.

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  2. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    115 - 113 Chavez. As long as Chavez can avoid a bad cut or TKO loss he takes a narrow but clear decision.
     
  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Manny never got his chin checked past 130. His fight at 135 against Diaz was a walk in the park. His fight against Oscar, he never really got connected well either.


    Chavez had proven he could take a beating at 140 and for Pac we just dont know what he can take. So this would favor Chavez by a large margin. Dont get me wrong, Pac is an amazing physical specimen but he hasnt proven to be durable yet at the higher weights.
     
  4. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taxi drivers his whole career!? WTF are you smoking?
     
  5. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Chavez got his ass kicked for 12 rounds against Taylor. Pacman has never had that kind of fight at all and especially above 130.

    Also that a load of bull**** that he fought nobodies. He was the reigning champ. I dont know as much about his career as Id like but atleast I will admit it. You obviously cant admit that. Prepared to be schooled by someone more familiar because he does have some good wins.
     
  6. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    W TKO 6 - Ruben Castillo (63-4-2)
    W TKO 10 - Roger Mayweather (34-5-0)
    W TKO 3 - Alberto Cortes (44-0-0)
    W TKO 12 - Meldrick Taylor (24-0-1)
    W TKO 5 - Angel Hernandez (37-0-2)
    W UD 10 - Adriana Arreola (21-4-0)
    W TKO 8 - Joey Gamache (45-2-0)
    W TKO 6 - Marty Jakubowski (37-0-0)
    W TKO 8 - Mario Martinez (33-1-2)
    W TKO 11 - Edwin Rosario (31-2-0)
    W TKO 9 - Frankie Randell (49-2-1)
    W UD 10 - Ivan Robinson (32-9-2)
    W UD 12 - David Kamau (26-0-0)

    - Taxi drivers my ass.
     
  7. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And even that's leaving off names like Camacho, Jose Luis Ramirez, (but he had more than 100 wins too, so it must have all been against taxi drivers) Haugen, Limon, Lockridge, etc.
     
  8. M.I.G.

    M.I.G. and STILL... Full Member

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    JCC by KO. No question. His right hand was brilliant and his body shots were deadly. Pac has great head movement, but his overall defense is not not very good. He'd take some of Chavez' punches but would be forced to fold by the 9th round. He's not elusive enough to beat Chavez,
     
  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Lets keep our feet on the ground here guys... prime for prime, Chavez beats Manny.
     
  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Stay off the crack son.

    Chavez would walk Manny down, take everything he could throw, brutalize his liver & ribs & either win a clear UD or score a late TKO.

    Honestly :patsch
     
  11. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacs footwork would give Chavez trouble.
     
  12. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see a Camacho style beat down...Camacho was GREAT on his feet...but just folded towards the end...he made it to the final bell but he was COMPLETELY on the move...

    Chavez's head movement was great as well...people forget this...He wasn't a punching bag...He had pretty decent defense and power of a very strong JWW...I think it'll be a GREAT fight...but it would go under Chavez's belt
     
  13. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lets stop this fantasy match ups instead. You can never tell in boxing. What happened between DLH and Pac still left a lot of people confused. Hard to just count out a modern elite fighter, even if its against the past elites.