3 clean British fighters talk about disgraced PED cheat Jones

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  1. Super Hans

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    From another thread, thought this needed a discussion of it's own.

    It's also quite blatant to me, that the theory 'everyone is on something' is not true, and made up by deluded fanboys of shamed fighters- here shows 3 British fighters reaction to PED cheat Jones, who like most British fans of sport, find cheating a huge no-no. Perhaps down to culture difference, or perhaps because getting caught in the UK is so serve. Larry Olubarniwo was banned for 4 years after he got caught on the sauce- [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-2161025/Larry-Olubamiwo-banned-boxing-years-doping-offences.html[/url]

    And it's not just in boxing, it's in all sports. Footballl (soccer to some of you) player Rio Ferdiand for example, received an 8 month ban- for turning up late for a doping test- which he passed!


    Carl Froch


    'Froch was left shattered when Jones career ended in shame as a drugs cheat. The Brit said: I was very, very annoyed. I put him on a pedestal. Unbeaten, a super-middleweight moving up to heavyweight and winning world titles.

    Pound of pound the best at the time, no one could hit him, he could punch, he could box, he could do everything and usually did in the ring.

    He hardly ever lost a round and then to find out he was cheating on drugs was quite devastating because I was a massive fan.

    You look back and you think was he that good or was he given an extra boost by something else?

    Were drugs giving him thee edge on his way to the top? Was it giving him the edge in hand speed, was it meaning he could go 12 rounds easy?

    Some of his fights were close late on. The guys he was fighting were looking tired and he was still looking sharp was that down to drugs?

    If he was still sharp because he was cheating, then that is unfair because you never know he might have come unstuck in those final two or three rounds.'

    Clinton Woods

    'Former IBF light heavyweight champion Clinton Woods says he’s not surprised that former opponent Antonio Tarver and other prominent American boxers are testing dirty. “I fought in America three times and the testing situation was always joke,” Woods told the Sheffield Star. “In three fights, I had one little test and was told it was only for marijuana. It’s always annoyed me how rife American boxing is with drugs and steroids, but at least they are cracking down on it now and people are being caught. The trouble is that people there will only get fined pocket money.”

    ''Me and Roy Jones didn't even get drug tested after the fight''

    "When it comes to taking drugs there is no excuse, none whatsoever"

    Woods continued with "I remember when I was boxing if I had a cold I used to go to the doctors and see if there was something that I could take because I knew that there were things I couldnt take; boxers know"

    Joe Calzaghe

    "I would hate to fight a cheat and I don't believe in cheating in any sport. I'm not calling him a cheat and I don't know what was taken or what happened," Calzaghe told The People. "I have to remember to take my vitamin C every morning and I believe in a fair fight."

    He says that even if his opponent, Jones or otherwise, took an illegal steroid, he would still beat them.

    "In athletics, a cheat gets disqualified, but in boxing if you get your ass kicked and then he's found to be a cheat, it doesn't matter because you can't reverse the decision and you've still had your ass kicked.

    ''In athletics drug cheats get banned automatically for two years, and if steroids can make athletes run faster, they can surely help a boxer to hit harder and to hit for longer and this will enable them to inflict more punishment, which I think is repulsive. During our pre-fight medicals we get tested for drugs and it's never crossed my mind to take anything performance-enhancing. I don't have a big pot of pills that I dip into all hours of the day. In fact, I have a job just to remind myself to take vitamins.

    ''I would be angry if someone I fought took something that gave him an unfair advantage because this is a dangerous sport, it's not like running. In athletics it now seems almost part of the culture, just like cycling, and the who idea is to stay one step ahead of testing. I sat alongside Justin Gatlin, at the time the reigning Olympic 100m champion, on the BBC's Question of Sport about a year ago and spoke to him afterwards. We talked about the Jeff Lacy fight because he's from Florida as well and he seemed like a really nice guy and I was genuinely shocked and disappointed when he failed a drugs test last summer. Whenever I watch athletics or cycling now I have my suspicions. Some get caught and some don't but I like to think that fighters are clean. Boxing's a warrior sport and, to me, there have always been values that go along with that.

    ''It's cheating there's no other word for it.''
     
  2. Serge

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    Larry Oldbumbabywino was actually inspired to turn to the Dark Side by the likes of Juicer Jones and Two Times Toney.


    'When asked if he felt his ban of four years fit his crime, Olubamiwo insisted, “No, to be fair I don’t. First of all, looking at the other sanctions that the bigger-named guys had, it’s not fair. And a lot of people have made a big deal of me making a big deal about that, saying, ‘Well, it doesn’t matter; you’ve still broken the rules.’ But at the end of the day, these are the guys that we look up to. When I was younger or just getting into boxing, I’d look at guys like James Toney, Roy Jones, guys that are at the pinnacle of our sport. And you see that they’re using things and I think to myself, well, first of all, I have to use these things to get to the top or get to a stage where you can make some money. Second of all, if you do get caught, the sanctions are not likely to be that severe, so therefore, you can still get on with your career as these guys have done. So that was my thinking at the time. That was my mind frame at the time.'
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Larry needs to be deported. He is a disgrace to the UK and a disgrace to the Sport of boxing.
     
  4. Foxy 01

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    Hmmm didn't Joe get caught doing cocaine? He is right to complain about cheating in boxing, but I think he should chose his words very carefully when referring to drugs.
     
  5. rhin0z>

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    Supa get off jones Jock you shamless twink
     
  6. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think the coke was used to gain an unfair advantage in a fight.
     
  7. Super Hans

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    Calzaghe never used cocaine until after his career ended.
     
  8. Super Hans

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    rHinoz, I will do that when , you stop taking big dongers up your hideous sludgepipyou 95 lbs pencil neck geek. :hi:
     
  9. iceferg

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    Says the **** Super Hands who accused Shawn Porter without any evidence. Does that mean Kell Brook is on them as well?
     
  10. Slick n Jewish

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    Nope Kell not on any performance enhancing drugs as he does random drug testing all year round, He just that good he made a Juiced Shawn Porter look like Jeff Lacy when he fought Calzaghe
     
  11. Super Hans

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    Kell Brook demanded drug testing and is randomly drug tested constantly as he licensed by the British Boxing Board of Control who randomly test fighters, even between fights.

    Shawn Porter went from being a pillow fisted plodder to a mini Mike Tyson knocking out Paulie Malignaggi and overpowering Devon Alexander while covered in acne after hooking it up with notorious PED coach Victor Conte and then did everything in their power to wriggle out of the PED testing, including changing the dates so they could have the notorious Californian State Athletic commission who told Porter when they'd turn up and it would be a couple of days before the fight to allow Porter to finish his cycle.


    If you was held at gunpoint with someone who'd know for a fact and told does Porter take PEDs yes or no- you'd say yes.
     
  12. Foxy 01

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    Don't be so naive. People don't suddenly start snorting coke when they are approaching 40. I am not saying he used it in a build up towards a fight, but I'd wager he used it between fights for a good while.

    Thats where I got the stones and glass houses ****ogy from. Joe is right to criticise cheating in sport, and there are many ways to do so, particularly in boxing. But I still think it is a bit rich for him to mention drugs in any way shape or form.
     
  13. Super Hans

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    Even his ex wife claimed after a messy divorce scandal that Joe didn't start until after. He was bored when his career ended and started take coke while partying.

    Joe was also licensed by the British Boxing Board of Control, who randomly drug test fighters even between fights up to 10 times a year. So if Joe was such a coke head throughout his career why wouldn't he have failed a test.

    Joe has every right to criticise Jones' PED use. He never stepped into the ring giving himself an unfair advantage over an opponent like Jones did, endangering their well being unfairly- and also bare in mind these comments came before Joe career ended
     
  14. Super Hans

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    I would say this should be the rule, just on the of chance someone gets spiked or something:

    1. 3 year ban from the sport
    2. You must pay the purse you made from your last fight to your opponent.
    3. When you return, you are pee and blood tested at least once a week even between fights
    4. All your wins and draws are scrubbed from your record and changed to NC's.
    5. Exemption from the Hall of Fame
    6. Stripped of all titles and not recognised as a former title holder.

    :deal
     
  15. iceferg

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    Is that right now?

    I'm guessing you don't know many pro boxers then?

    I know Jon-Lewis ****inson and he told me the first time he ever got drug tested was when he fought Shane McPhilbin. That's about 15 or 16 fights into his career, he had already won prize fighter and done no tests and had to do one or two **** tests for a British title.

    You're deluded and make it up as you go along Kell Brook didn't ask for any testing and was just as likely as Porter (very likely) to be on stuff.