3 Days Until "Jermaine Taylor after Pavlik" Syndrome Hits Cotto Smurf's Fans, HBO

san rafael · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

Just one more thought:

Everyone knows that Cotto is skilled and 'cute' as a fighter, or that he is capable of being so. He showed that while on his bike against Mosley.

However, unlike a fighter like Floyd (who could probably last the distance with Margo), Cotto isn't slick enough to be able to stay out of danger for all 12 rounds. He not elusive enough or quick enough to do this. His defense isn't good enough, either.

People want to talk about Clottey. Clottey has SUPERIOR defensive skills, really top-shelf. And all that happened to him was that Margo set a compubox record against him by throwing like 1675 punches en route to winning the last 8 rounds of the fight on all cards, I believe.

In other words, the Clottey Strategy didn't work. And it was executed by a guy who is at least as big as Cotto (he's actually bigger, IMO), who has an iron chin and who is a master defensive boxer. Say what you want about Clottey's hand, too, but Floyd had a busted hand against Castillo and he still executed his strategy. Margo just imposed his will on Clottey, as he does to all the guys he fights.

So we're supposed to take a slightly smaller, lesser-chinned, nowhere-near-as-good-defensively fighter in Cotto and have him execute a supposedly good strategy which led to the guy who first tried it to being shut out the last 8 rounds? That's the winning formula?

Ha ha ha. Good luck.

Cotto better have those low blows ready to be thrown on Saturday night. Baring a fluke cut or injury, he is going to need them and anything else he can think of to stay off the canvas.

This isn't DeMarcus Corley, Ricardo Torres or Zab Judah here he's fighting. When Margo hurts you, you're done. Just ask Cintron, who said something after the second fight like "he wanted the KO badly."

I almost feel sorry for Cotto and his 'huggers.
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Every post you have in this thread is good, but this is the best one IMO. Real **** is being said here.

Personally, I feel bad for Cotto himself because he knows what he's up against. He's going to show us something that alot of people don't know about Miguel Cotto - he has no fear of failure. That's why he's doing this. He doesn't give a ****.

A Miguel Cotto afraid to fail would have backed out of this fight, because he knows, he knows what he's up against. Miguel has been rolling the dice for a long time, he won't be surprised to lose. He's been surprised he's gotten away with winning this long.

Most of the fans don't know, most of the media don't know, but Miguel knows. Miguel knows.

Hatesrats · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

Here is Margo's record since his third fight in 1999 on:

21 fights
18 wins
02 losses (Santos [cut], Williams)
01 NC (Santos [cut])

16 KO's/stoppages

Wins w/o KO:
* Perez (probably fought giving Perez too much respect after Perez knocked him down 3 years earlier)
* Clottey (great defense & chin)
Clottey was hurt; don't know about Perez. Perez shut out, basically, in rematch

Only Williams clearly and cleanly beat AM in last 12 years, since AM was 18 years old or so.

Only 3 guys have ever put AM down since he started fighting pro at the age of 15; last time was 9 years ago, when AM was 21 years old
(Cotto hurt, down in 2005)
One time AM put down with body shot, when still in teens (1996; AM was 18 years old)
Last time knocked down was when he was 21 years old
Never knocked out

Losses:
* Santos - Cut stopped the fight, barely lost on cards. Santos is slightly taller than Margarito, is a multiple-time champion and is larger than Margarito naturally. Also, Santos is a very fast-handed, complete fighter.

* Williams - Physical freak who threw 103 punches/round

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Ok, what conclusions can we draw from this information?

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Miguel Cotto is not larger or longer than Margarito.

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Even the Perez headshot in '99 saw Margarito immediately off of the canvas. He looked more embarrassed than anything. He won the fight, too. You never, ever, see Margarito reeling back from power shots or on the run. Even when Williams beat him, he did so purely by volume and never had Margo in the least bit of trouble. The "Iron Chin" thing, for at least 9 years or so, is very real. Ditto the body. He's only been down once in his career from a body shot, and he was a teenager then.

Miguel Cotto is almost assuredly not going to be the first guy to hurt Margarito in 9 years. If guys like Williams and Santos didn't do it, the smaller Cotto is not going to do it. Cotto couldn't even hurt Mosley even after finding him open all night.

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That's it. Since he was 18 years old, he's lost cleanly 1 time. Since Miguel Cotto was like a freshman in high school, Margarito has lost cleanly once.

As I've said before, there is only one Paul Williams. Williams is a physical freak, and Cotto is nothing like him at all in terms of physical tools.

Miguel Cotto, forget about not having Williams' physical talents, could not DREAM of throwing 103 punches/round for 12 rounds as Williams did. There is no comparison between Williams and Cotto.

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Only the iron-chinned defensive wizard Clottey and the man who put Margo down last, Perez, went the distance in what were easy wins for Margo. Clottey was rocked, was on his bike much of the second half of the fight and got a compubox record set against him. Perez was basically shut out the entire fight in the rematch, and Margo probably fought him cautiously after having been knocked down in the first match.

In the last 9 years, 4 men have gone the distance with Margo. Two are taller, larger men. One is a defensive expert with an iron chin who took 1675 punches thrown at him. The other was shut out and had knocked Margo down in a previous fight.

Miguel Cotto is not taller or larger than Margo. He is not a defensive expert, nor does he have an iron chin. He will never last 1675 punches coming his way. He did not knock Margo down in a previous fight with him.

If Miguel Cotto cannot get Margo's respect Saturday night -- like Perez did -- he is going to get run over. He does not have the physical tools Santos or Williams do, nor does he have the defensive skill or chin of Clottey. His only chance is to try to keep Margo off of him, likely by going to the body.

If he can't do this early on, the fight is going to be short and Cotto will end up like Golden Johnson or Six Heads Lewis -- totally overwhelmed and destroyed. Golden Johnson is not an easy guy to hit, supposedly, and he was wailed upon by Margo.

Even if Cotto is able to dance away and/or get Margo's respect, it is still very likely that Cotto, as is his tendency, will wear down as the fight progresses and be stopped later.

But if he isn't able to get away or slow down Margo, this fight is not going to last long. Margo will simply 'wrecking ball' Cotto Smurf and add him to the growing scrap heap that Cintron, Golden Johnson, and many others have been put in over the last 12 years.
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:yikes You can prob SELL bag's of sand to people in a desert...bro

After reading that, Cotto has -
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(If Margo fight's the way you stated your case, Cotto is done)

NESTORRDEA · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

Here is Margo's record since his third fight in 1999 on (since Margo was 21 years old, approximately):

21 fights
18 wins
02 losses (Santos [cut], Williams)
01 NC (Santos [cut])

16 of 18 wins by KO/TKO/opponent retired
16 of 21 fights he won by KO/TKO/opponent retired
Not seriously hurt in any fight even once
Not knocked down once
Not stopped once

Wins w/o KO:
* Perez (probably fought giving Perez too much respect after Perez knocked him down 3 years earlier)
* Clottey (great defense & chin)
Clottey was hurt at least once by Margarito; don't know about Perez. Perez shut out, basically, in rematch

Only Williams clearly and cleanly beat AM in last 12 years, since AM was 18 years old or so.

Only 3 guys have ever put AM down since he started fighting pro at the age of 15; last time was 9 years ago, when AM was 21 years old
(Cotto hurt, down in 2005)
One time AM put down with body shot, when still in teens (1996; AM was 18 years old)
Last time knocked down was when he was 21 years old
Never knocked out

Losses:
* Santos - Cut stopped the fight, barely lost on cards. Santos is slightly taller than Margarito, is a multiple-time champion and is larger than Margarito naturally. Also, Santos is a very fast-handed, complete fighter.

* Williams - Physical freak who threw 103 punches/round

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Ok, what conclusions can we draw from this information?

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Miguel Cotto is not larger or longer than Margarito.

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Even the Perez headshot in '99 saw Margarito immediately up off of the canvas. He looked more embarrassed than anything. He won the fight, too. You never, ever, see Margarito reeling back from power shots or on the run. Even when Williams beat him, he did so purely by volume and never had Margo in the least bit of trouble. The "Iron Chin" thing, for at least 9 years or so, is very real. Ditto the body. He's only been down once in his career from a body shot, and he was a teenager then.

Miguel Cotto is almost assuredly not going to be the first guy to hurt Margarito in 9 years. If guys like Williams and Santos didn't do it, the smaller Cotto is not going to do it. Cotto couldn't even hurt Mosley despite Mosley being wide open for Cotto's punches all night.

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That's it. Since he was 18 years old, he's lost cleanly 1 time. Since Miguel Cotto was like a freshman in high school, Margarito has lost cleanly once.

As I've said before, there is only one Paul Williams. Williams is a physical freak, and Cotto is nothing like him at all in terms of physical tools.

Miguel Cotto, forget about not having Williams' physical talents, could not DREAM of throwing 103 punches/round for 12 rounds as Williams did. There is no comparison between Williams and Cotto.

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Only the iron-chinned defensive wizard Clottey and the man who put Margo down last, Perez, went the distance in what were easy wins for Margo. Clottey was rocked, was on his bike much of the second half of the fight and got a compubox record set against him. Perez was basically shut out the entire fight in the rematch, and Margo probably fought him cautiously after having been knocked down in the first match.

In the last 9 years, 4 men have gone the distance with Margo. Two are taller, larger men. One is a defensive expert with an iron chin who took 1675 punches thrown at him. The other was shut out and had knocked Margo down in a previous fight.

Miguel Cotto is not taller or larger than Margo. He is not a defensive expert, nor does he have an iron chin. He will never last 1675 punches coming his way. He did not knock Margo down in a previous fight with him.

If Miguel Cotto cannot get Margo's respect Saturday night -- like Perez did -- he is going to get run over. He does not have the physical tools Santos or Williams do, nor does he have the defensive skill or chin of Clottey. His only chance is to try to keep Margo off of him, likely by going to the body.

If he can't do this early on, the fight is going to be short and Cotto will end up like Golden Johnson or Six Heads Lewis -- totally overwhelmed and destroyed. Think a much larger Ricardo Torres just landing shot after shot on Cotto's wobbly jaw and body. Golden Johnson is not an easy guy to hit, supposedly, and he was wailed upon -- very accurately -- by Margo.

Even if Cotto is able to dance away and/or get Margo's respect, it is still very likely that Cotto, as is his tendency, will wear down as the fight progresses and be stopped later by the swarming Margarito.

But if Cotto isn't able to get away or slow down Margo early on, this fight is not going to last long. Margo will simply 'wrecking ball' Cotto Smurf and add him to the growing scrap heap that Cintron, Golden Johnson, and many others have been put on over the last 12 years.
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WOWW, HEY , DO YOU KNOW HOW TO WRITE A SHORT AND PRECISE POST OR DO YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO REPEAT ALL THIS NONSENSE IN ORDER TO FEEL GOOD?

paulfv · Jul 24, 2008

There's nothing to say, nothing to refute. The facts have all been laid out by me.

Cotto is a good fighter, but this is about matchups. Margarito is simply too big and too hard for Cotto. This isn't rocket science, and only the hype-buyers can't see where this is headed.

Unless Cotto cuts Margo or gets DQ'd for low blows, it is going to be a miracle for him to last the fight. And if he does, he's going to get "Clotteyed." That is, he's going to eat a huge number of punches and perhaps have a compubox record set against him while he furiously bikes away from harm.

This is Jermaine Taylor-Kelly Pavlik all over again. It is so damn clear, yet people don't see it because they don't want to.

Floyd is a wuss, but he's not dumb. He wants no part of Margo. Saturday night will make it a lot clearer why that is the case.

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Relentless -- No, I'm not joining your betting pool. You smurf lovers will need everything and anything you have to fight off the shock and depression Saturday night, including your avatars. Like with the Taylor 'huggers, I don't want to punk you or the smurf fans out any more than you will be when Cotto Smurf gets owned.

paulfv · Jul 24, 2008

san rafael said:

Most of the fans don't know, most of the media don't know, but Miguel knows. Miguel knows.
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The real Cotto fans know. That's why they're pissed off at Arum. They know the danger that's here. But you're right, most don't know and they're just kidding themselves or drunk on some Hype-Aid.

san rafael said:

Personally, I feel bad for Cotto himself because he knows what he's up against. He's going to show us something that alot of people don't know about Miguel Cotto - he has no fear of failure. That's why he's doing this. He doesn't give a ****.

A Miguel Cotto afraid to fail would have backed out of this fight, because he knows, he knows what he's up against. Miguel has been rolling the dice for a long time, he won't be surprised to lose. He's been surprised he's gotten away with winning this long.
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Man, you said it perfectly. This is why I will always respect Cotto. He could have backed out of this fight but he is a real champion. This is really what this whole thing is about, what you said. HUGE props to Cotto. He has the guts and the cajones Floyd and many others wish they had.

Losing doesn't kill a fighter or his rep. It's the gutlessness that breaks you down, mentally. The fear.

GREAT post. You really know your stuff and understand the inside scoop here. See you on Saturday, my man! :goodgood

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Hatesrats -- Thanks, dog! I've been writing for a long time, and all that practices helps. Even if you're a hack like me, if you stay with it as I have you can become more and more persuasive.

Peace, fellas! I'm out for now.

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taino · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

There's nothing to say, nothing to refute. The facts have all been laid out by me.

Cotto is a good fighter, but this is about matchups. Margarito is simply too big and too hard for Cotto. This isn't rocket science, and only the hype-buyers can't see where this is headed.

Unless Cotto cuts Margo or gets DQ'd for low blows, it is going to be a miracle for him to last the fight. And if he does, he's going to get "Clotteyed." That is, he's going to eat a huge number of punches and perhaps have a compubox record set against him while he furiously bikes away from harm.

This is Jermaine Taylor-Kelly Pavlik all over again. It is so damn clear, yet people don't see it because they don't want to.

Floyd is a wuss, but he's not dumb. He wants no part of Margo. Saturday night will make it a lot clearer why that is the case.

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Relentless -- No, I'm not joining your betting pool. You smurf lovers will need everything and anything you have to fight off the shock and depression Saturday night, including your avatars. Like with the Taylor 'huggers, I don't want to punk you or the smurf fans out any more than you will be when Cotto Smurf gets owned.
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believe its about matchups styles but i to think that Margo is a good fighter and bring something deferent to the table that cotto hase not dealt with yet. but to sit here and down play cotto becous you weird agenda is just as silly as your reticules statements i think you most of forgot about what cotto brings to the table movement speed timing .inside and out side game very good jab and devastating body shot. that could effect Margarito relentless style

twenty1 · Jul 24, 2008

Agreed on those stupid threads after the fight (i.e. Margo vs the world bull****)

JabCross727 · Jul 24, 2008

I think we have focused too much of the size of the dog in the fight. If that would be the case, Margarito should take it. However, what wins the fight is the size of the fight in the dog. I think it is close here since Margarito has perceptibly the more hunger waiting for this caliber of a fight. But do not underestimate Cotto's past record of overcoming adversity and his desire to become a bigger champion at 147 and aim for the #1 P4P spot in the sport.

Chiko_Tech · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

It's going to be ugly, too. The bandwagon crash is going to be like a bullet train hitting the side of a mountain at full speed.

People are buying into the hype, telling themselves things like "Cotto is going to knock Margo out," etc., when Cintron couldn't even slow Margo down.

Miguel Cotto is no Jermaine Taylor. He is a much, much better fighter than that, although both Taylor and Cotto have tremendous heart. You have to give that to them. Taylor stepped right back to the plate after Pavlik destroyed him, made some changes, and went the full 12 in the rematch. Cotto took the fight with Margo, which is a lot more than the WWE guy can say. So props on this 'cajones' aspect to both JT and MC.

However, all of us who knew that MC was nothing close to what HBO has tried to build him up to be -- or at least that he can't match up with Margo -- will be doing the "I told you so" thing early Sunday morning. Just like we did with Taylor.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Prepare yourself for the "Cotto Was Overrated," "Margo Should Be Forced To Fight At Junior Middleweight," and "Who Wins: Margarito vs Wlad?" threads, because they are all on deck.

Cotto should look great early, and people will be thinking it's Clottey all over again, except Cotto won't have a supposedly hurt hand/wrist/finger/...

Cotto will move, Cotto will box, Cotto will go to the body. Cotto should be ahead on the scorecards in the early rounds of the fight and going into the middle rounds.

Cotto's fans will be thinking "Margo isn't anything," probably.

And then...

Cotto will slightly tire or lose his focus just enough, Cotto will be stalked, Cotto will be hit, Cotto will be hurt, Cotto will throw low blows, Cotto will be dropped and Cotto will be stopped.

Get ready for it.

The ONLY guy in the welterweight division who can hang with Margarito is Williams. Floyd retired because he doesn't want any part of Margo or Williams. Mosley passed up $8 million to fight Margo and instead took on Cotto.

Just like Shane, everybody knows the deal.

Except the Cotto fans. And HBO.

Saturday, they will know as well.

Same as they did after Pavlik-Taylor I & II.

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Man you still hasn't change all this year Cotto has been owned you, becasue you always pick against him. cotto have been beaten every kind of boxers and still you pick him against anybody including Gomez. Man stop the hate that is bad, and more for a guy that is great for the sport for the incredible enterteiment that he brings on the ring.

David_TheMan · Jul 24, 2008

I'm sorry but until Cotto beats a ATG 2 times, you shouldn't try to compare him to Taylor.

Tito Time · Jul 24, 2008

just replying to this thread to make note of it Sunday morning...

555east · Jul 24, 2008

yeah really, you make some very solid points as Margo's durability and work rate should keep him in the fight, and he has a very real chance of winning, much more so then Mosley or Judah

but cut the exaggeration ... Clottey isn't a "defensive wizard" defense is a strong point of his, but all his wizardry has really shown is he can keep his gloves high and pick off punches (kinda Winky esque)

and Cotto can do that exact same thing ^

sure Clottey may do it better, but you can't call Joshua a wizard, because that's an incredible exaggeration. Pernell Whitaker was a wizard, Clottey's just solid.

and I've seen a handful of his fights so I can vouch, Joshua is no wizard but he is solid.

**I slightly like your comparison to Taylor's downfall vs Pavlik, because I did have Pav over Taylor, but that IMO was more on the fact that Taylor went up against smaller men (Spinks & Ouma) his last 2 fights going into Pavlik ... and Jermain wasn't ready to face a genuine 6'1 hard punching Middleweight, gassed out a bit and stopped.

keep in mind Taylor did gas a bit vs Ouma, but keep in mind, Ouma isn't a devastating puncher, so gassing vs him vs gassing vs Pavlik are 2 completely different scenario's

anyway I'll tentatively go with Cotto by UD because he's the more skilled, well rounded fighter

but I wouldn't mind being surprised, and Margo can certainly pull out the W. (I agree with you that if Marg wins it'll be inside the distance.)

Caper · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

It's going to be ugly, too. The bandwagon crash is going to be like a bullet train hitting the side of a mountain at full speed.

People are buying into the hype, telling themselves things like "Cotto is going to knock Margo out," etc., when Cintron couldn't even slow Margo down.

Miguel Cotto is no Jermaine Taylor. He is a much, much better fighter than that, although both Taylor and Cotto have tremendous heart. You have to give that to them. Taylor stepped right back to the plate after Pavlik destroyed him, made some changes, and went the full 12 in the rematch. Cotto took the fight with Margo, which is a lot more than the WWE guy can say. So props on this 'cajones' aspect to both JT and MC.

However, all of us who knew that MC was nothing close to what HBO has tried to build him up to be -- or at least that he can't match up with Margo -- will be doing the "I told you so" thing early Sunday morning. Just like we did with Taylor.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Prepare yourself for the "Cotto Was Overrated," "Margo Should Be Forced To Fight At Junior Middleweight," and "Who Wins: Margarito vs Wlad?" threads, because they are all on deck.

Cotto should look great early, and people will be thinking it's Clottey all over again, except Cotto won't have a supposedly hurt hand/wrist/finger/...

Cotto will move, Cotto will box, Cotto will go to the body. Cotto should be ahead on the scorecards in the early rounds of the fight and going into the middle rounds.

Cotto's fans will be thinking "Margo isn't anything," probably.

And then...

Cotto will slightly tire or lose his focus just enough, Cotto will be stalked, Cotto will be hit, Cotto will be hurt, Cotto will throw low blows, Cotto will be dropped and Cotto will be stopped.

Get ready for it.

The ONLY guy in the welterweight division who can hang with Margarito is Williams. Floyd retired because he doesn't want any part of Margo or Williams. Mosley passed up $8 million to fight Margo and instead took on Cotto.

Just like Shane, everybody knows the deal.

Except the Cotto fans. And HBO.

Saturday, they will know as well.

Same as they did after Pavlik-Taylor I & II.

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I stopped reading your post after I read that line.....it means we are not even on the same wave length and or level of understanding when it comes to analyzing offensive execution.

Galileo Galilei · Jul 24, 2008

Cotto is gonna beat Margo and I can't wait for Sat.

I really don't care who wins I like both guys.

AM just seems too slow and wide for a compact guy like Cotto.

Should be a brawl but goddamn that undercard sucks rotten ass.

Way to go Arum :good

Atleast there wil be no Tye Fields on the undercard.

jlrivera81 · Jul 24, 2008

paulfv said:

Here is Margo's record since his third fight in 1999 on (since Margo was 21 years old, approximately):

21 fights
18 wins
02 losses (Santos [cut], technical decision loss; Williams)
01 NC (Santos [cut])

16 of 18 wins by KO/TKO/opponent retired
16 of 21 fights he won by KO/TKO/opponent retired
Not seriously hurt in any fight even once
Not knocked down once
Not stopped once

Wins w/o KO:
* Perez (probably fought giving Perez too much respect after Perez knocked him down 3 years earlier)
* Clottey (great defense & chin)
Clottey was hurt at least once by Margarito; don't know about Perez. Perez shut out, basically, in rematch

Only Williams clearly and cleanly beat AM in last 12 years, since AM was 18 years old or so.

Only 3 guys have ever put AM down since he started fighting pro at the age of 15; last time was 9 years ago, when AM was 21 years old
(Cotto hurt, down in 2005)
One time AM put down with body shot, when still in teens (1996; AM was 18 years old)
Last time knocked down was when he was 21 years old
Never knocked out

Losses:
* Santos - Cut stopped the fight, barely lost on cards. Santos is slightly taller than Margarito, is a multiple-time champion and is larger than Margarito naturally. Also, Santos is a very fast-handed, complete fighter.

* Williams - Physical freak who threw 103 punches/round

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Miguel Cotto is not larger or longer than Margarito.

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Even the Perez headshot in '99 saw Margarito immediately up off of the canvas. He looked more embarrassed than anything. He won the fight, too. You never, ever, see Margarito reeling back from power shots or on the run. Even when Williams beat him, he did so purely by volume and never had Margo in the least bit of trouble. The "Iron Chin" thing, for at least 9 years or so, is very real. Ditto the body. He's only been down once in his career from a body shot, and he was a teenager then.

Miguel Cotto is almost assuredly not going to be the first guy to hurt Margarito in 9 years. If guys like Williams and Santos didn't do it, the smaller Cotto is not going to do it. Cotto couldn't even hurt Mosley despite Mosley being wide open for Cotto's punches all night.

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That's it. Since he was 18 years old, he's lost cleanly 1 time. Since Miguel Cotto was like a freshman in high school, Margarito has lost cleanly once.

As I've said before, there is only one Paul Williams. Williams is a physical freak, and Cotto is nothing like him at all in terms of physical tools.

Miguel Cotto, forget about not having Williams' physical talents, could not DREAM of throwing 103 punches/round for 12 rounds as Williams did. There is no comparison between Williams and Cotto.

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Only the iron-chinned defensive wizard Clottey and the man who put Margo down last, Perez, went the distance in what were easy wins for Margo. Clottey was rocked, was on his bike much of the second half of the fight and got a compubox record set against him. Perez was basically shut out the entire fight in the rematch, and Margo probably fought him cautiously after having been knocked down in the first match.

In the last 9 years, 4 men have gone the distance with Margo. Two are taller, larger men. One is a defensive expert with an iron chin who took 1675 punches thrown at him. The other was shut out and had knocked Margo down in a previous fight.

Miguel Cotto is not taller or larger than Margo. He is not a defensive expert, nor does he have an iron chin. He will never last 1675 punches coming his way. He did not knock Margo down in a previous fight with him.

If Miguel Cotto cannot get Margo's respect Saturday night -- like Perez did -- he is going to get run over. He does not have the physical tools Santos or Williams do, nor does he have the defensive skill or chin of Clottey. His only chance is to try to keep Margo off of him, likely by going to the body.

If he can't do this early on, the fight is going to be short and Cotto will end up like Golden Johnson or Six Heads Lewis -- totally overwhelmed and destroyed. Think a much larger Ricardo Torres just landing shot after shot on Cotto's wobbly jaw and body. Golden Johnson is not an easy guy to hit, supposedly, and he was wailed upon -- very accurately -- by Margo.

Even if Cotto is able to dance away and/or get Margo's respect, it is still very likely that Cotto, as is his tendency, will wear down as the fight progresses and be stopped later by the swarming Margarito.

But if Cotto isn't able to get away or slow down Margo early on, this fight is not going to last long. Margo will simply 'wrecking ball' Cotto Smurf and add him to the growing scrap heap that Cintron, Golden Johnson, and many others have been put on over the last 12 years.
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You know I can definitely appreciate the research you did to get all this info. It's quite impressive that you put this together. So good job.

However, the one thing that you are not taking into consideration is marg's level of competition. is it possible that he hasnt been hurt in 12 years b/c he has been fighting C and B fighters for most of his career. Is it possible that the reason he didnt KO Clottey isnt b/c of Clottey's chin. It could be perhaps Marg cant KO top knotch fighters. Is it possible that when he stepped up to the plate against a top fighter in P Williams, he lost simply b/c Paul was better, not b/c he is a physical freak.

YOu have to consider these things. It's all good what Marg has accomplished. But the fact is he has done those things against B/C level fighters. It appears (maybe not true) that when he steps up the level of competition, he has looked very ordinary (Santos, Clottey, Paul)

I'm not saying that these are the reasons why. I just dont think you should consider it.

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