3 great fighters. 3 great fights. You choose- MAYWEATHER, CALZAGHE, PRYOR

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    :good very true

    Its between JC & Pacman for p4p 1, your only as good as your last fight in boxing, Pac won more convincingly (Diaz) but Joe beat the better fighter (Hopkins) so it really depends on preference. I like Calzaghe`s style better but like Pac too so wont argue solidly either way.

    :thumbsup
     
    Bill Butcher, Aug 26, 2008
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  2. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    You Calzaghe fans really are obsessive-compulsive. Why is any of this tired old BS about how great he is being written on this thread?? It has nothing to do with anything. (though this post is more for Pugilist than you Butcher)

    The thread is on which fight of the 3 mentioned would have benefitted each guy's career more. Why would this turn into a discussion on the merits of Joe Calzaghe's career?

    To Pugilist: I hope you have this stuff saved on your computer:

    He won 3 ABA titles at different weights,has been world champion 11 years,defended his title 21 times,beaten every one he has faced,fought in front of crowds in excess of 30,000 and 50,000 and travelled to the US to fight there.

    so you can just cut n paste it, because it is your answer to every single question you have ever been asked.

    The guy said Calzaghe didn't have weight on the world stage throughout his career. How the **** has that got anything to do with ABA titles or number of routine mundane title defences?!?!

    The dude was just rightly pointing out that Calzaghe never got a fight with a top 10 p4p huge name til he went to the USA, he never had the weight or the pull to get Jones or Hopkins to come over the water to fight him. That's just a fact, and it doesn't reflect negatively on Joe at all, before you jump in with your standard irrelevant moronic defence of him "3 amateur titles, 21 defences, blah blah blah..."- Ricky Hatton didn't have the weight to get Mayweather to go to England, Hamed didn't have the weight to get Barrera to go to England- that is no slight on them, the biggest names simply don't want to fight outside of the USA.

    The guy was rightly saying that Calzaghe was not a big name on the world stage til he beat Lacy- this is true. Even you must admit this. How can you construe this as a criticism of your beloved? It isn't, it's just a valid reason to explain why Calzaghe never got a big fight til he travelled to the USA.

    Chill the **** out.
     
    DINAMITA, Aug 26, 2008
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  3. pugilist64

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    BEFORE JC went to the US he`d drawn crowds of 30,000+ and 50,000+ When exactly Mr Smartarse has those superstars Hopkins or Jones drawn anywhere near that size of crowd??
     
    pugilist64, Aug 26, 2008
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  4. lfsdan

    lfsdan Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather would outbox Tszyu; but you never know. That could be an interesting one.

    I'm fairly confident Jones would beat Calzaghe during that time period, if not make him look foolish.

    And finally... NO version of Pryor beats Benitez. Benitez is very underrated by some people on this forum. They didn't call him 'the bible of boxing' for nothing. He did virtually everything better than Pryor. Alot of people base his performance against Leonard as what he was capable of. What screwed Benitez was himself. After he lost the fight his trainer said "Come on Wilfred how many days did you train for that fight, 12?" and Benitez replied "No your wrong. I trained 13". Benitez was amazing. If he would have actually trained for SRL I am convinced he would have beaten him.
     
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  5. Thread Stealer

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    Mayweather UD 12 Tszyu
    Jones UD 12 Calzaghe
    Benitez UD 15 Pryor


    Calzaghe beating Jones would've done the most for his resume out of the 3.
     
    Thread Stealer, Aug 26, 2008
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  6. DINAMITA

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    Did he get the big names to come to England? No. He had to travel. He didn't have the weight on a WORLD stage to get them to come to him. That's all the guy was saying. And it's true. Not a criticism of Calzaghe. Are you alright petal?
     
    DINAMITA, Aug 26, 2008
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  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I DONT RECALL FLOYD BEING "HURT" IN THE CORLEY FIGHT...CORLEY LANDED A CLEAN PUNCH AND HAD FLOYD BACKING UP FOR A SEC..BUT BY NO MEANS WAS HE HURT

    PRYOR WAS A GREAT 140LB FIGHTER... I THINK HE BEATS KOSTYA AT 140

    JOE IS TOP 5 ALL TIME AT 168LBS...
     
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  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I Like All 3 Of There Resumes As Well
     
    sdsfinest22, Aug 26, 2008
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  9. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Naseem Hamed fought a peak Barrera & Im sure that both Kessler & Lacy were called world class on more than one occassion, so much so that most expected Calzaghe to lose to both - we KNOW that they were both in their prime when Joe ***** SLAPPED them when both were 28, its undisputable both were prime.

    Only after Joe beat them did they become B level boxers to you guys other side of the pond. Excuses excuses.

    :-(
     
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  10. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Without question - Calzaghe beating Jones who was the untouchable p4p no1 at the time to most people.

    Tho I doubt everyone would give JC credit such is the nature of some boxing fans.
     
    Bill Butcher, Aug 26, 2008
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  11. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    Calzaghe hasn't beaten an ATG at his peak, so how can calzaghe be considered great.

    Holding the WBO belt for ten years is something to be embarassed about.

    and don't come out with all this yank ****, cus i'm from britain.
     
    Undisputed P4P, Aug 26, 2008
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  12. pugilist64

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    Here`s a newsflash for you!!! Possibly,just possibly Calzaghe was a star BEFORE the Lacy fight and you guys in the States are a bit on the slow side. You talk as though a fighter suddenly becomes good when people in the States notices them. Highly illogical.
     
    pugilist64, Aug 26, 2008
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  13. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    amen
     
    smiffy, Aug 26, 2008
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  14. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sums it up perfectly. is there a law in boxing that says a fighter is not world class until americans ( the most insular and ignorant nation on earth ) says they are ? laughable.
     
    smiffy, Aug 26, 2008
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  15. pugilist64

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    Which arena is the ""world stage" in??? Calzaghe-Kessler in front of 50,000+ at the Millenium Stadium and broadcast worldwide wasn`t the "world stage??!!" :think
     
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