3 Heavywieghts who can possibly beat Wlad

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  1. djrock247

    djrock247 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's a lot more than 2 nobodies in the heavyweight ranks!
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seems to me the Top 3 are Valuev, Peter, and Chagaev. Peter has about 30 percent chance of winning, 30 % Chagaev, and 40 % percent Valuev, I also give Mccall 30 % because of his chin and determination.
     
  3. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    I agree about peter. he's got great heart and heavy hands although his punch resistance is really questionable now.

    Valuev would get tore up. wlad's hand speed is more like a middlewieght than a heavy. wlad would barely get touched. brutal beating

    chagaev is very good boxer but he is counter-puncher. klitschko would eat that up. got to back him up. may have a solid chin but his punch is not heavy enough.

    mccall has taken the hasim rahman and briggs approach to a title shot but u can't go from class-a ball to the majors and expect the same results.
     
  4. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree to an extent, Valuev has a great chance because his chin top 3 in the division, he ate everything an above average puncher threw in Chagaev and didnt flinch, to me thats impressive. He would tower Wlad in the ring at 7 foot plus, him being 6 inches taller and alot bigger might give Valuev the psychological advantage in the ring.

    Mccall has a titanium chin who can probably take Wlads best shots while having him a good right hand of his own.

    Chagaev is just a good all around boxer, not great at anything though. Has a chance if he makes Wlad miss and counters, a little tougher with Wlad than Valuev.

    The 3 things you need against Wlad to possibly beat him are a good chin, good power, and the willingness to go to war with Wlad and know your going have to take some to give some.
     
  5. elTerrible

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    Valuev has been wobbled. I dont remember what fight it was but Im sure someone else here could say which one it was. His chin is good but not iron. Wlad could hurt him if he actually commits to more than jabbing.
     
  6. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It wasnt against Ruiz, Chagaev, or Barret because I watched all 3 of them fights. It might of been against Mccline, I missed that fight.
     
  7. MilesP

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    the guy that wobbled him was actually Larry Donald ....the only time that I've seen him stunned by a punch at all
     
  8. Punisher33

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    How did Larry "The Legend" donald stun him, thats hard to believe, are you sure he didnt just stumble on his own 2 feet or something?
     
  9. MilesP

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    :D

    not only did he wobble the big guy, he actually outboxed him for most of the fight and should have won a UD.

    Valuev's improved a little bit since then but man did he look like **** that night
     
  10. Punisher33

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    Donald always was a good boxer, and I could believe that part. Donald was most remembered for taking the sucker punches from Bowe during the wiegh in, and after that fight he kinda fell of the map, I think the fight was stopped in 7th or 8th I believe.
     
  11. Club Fighter

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  12. MilesP

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    yeah, Donald is basically a VERY poor man's Ali. The shot that wobbled Valuev was a straight right hand in one of the latter rounds. It's not like Shrek was out on his feet but it had him stumbling back a few steps.

    I was pretty shocked to see a guy with cromagnum features like that stunned by anything at all
     
  13. Punisher33

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    I mean if Donald would of took him off his feet now that would of been shocking to say the least, its wierd because he ate Chagaevs hooks like they werent nothing. I still got him in my top 3 hardest heavywieghts to knockout just under Mccall and Tua.
     
  14. BoxingGuru

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    RUIZ? Are you on ****in crack? He lost to fat toney and got a gift, lost to Golota and got a gift and lost to Valuev and Chagaev??? :lol: :lol:
     
  15. huki

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    Povetkin WILL be the one to beat Klitschko and that's not some kind of nuthugger talk. I don't blindly nuthug any of my favorite fighters and never will.. I look at all matchups realistically and looking at this, if Povetkin fights him, Wlad will get knocked out.

    People have this perception of Wlad like he's almost unbeatable just because he beat a couple B level fighters over the last few years and he's become very overrated. Povetkin has more than enough to beat him, even at this early stage of his career. Povetkin isn't a one dimensional fighter like Brewster or Peter and he's not a mediocre fighter like Austin or Brock. He has the skills and abilities that Wlad will not be able to deal with and everyone will see this. I can't imagine the hype Povetkin will get when he beats him. It's gonna be silly and will even annoy me.