3 Sugars please

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  1. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    If Robinson, Leonard + Mosley were in their prime, what would happen if they fought H2H match ups?

    Also how would P4P #1 PBF fare if he faced the 3 sugars?
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Robinson vs Leonard @ 147: Robinson
    Leonard vs Mosley @ 147: Leonard
    Robinson vs Mosley @ 147: Robinson

    Mayweather vs Leonard @ 147: Leonard
    Mayweather vs Robinson @ 147: Robinson
    Mayweather vs current Mosley @ 147: Mayweather
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    Mosley doesn't stand a chance at 147 vs the other two.

    Robinson and Leonard both beat Mayweather, while at 135 Mayweather would likely outbox Shane. 147 though is a different story, and I may favor Shane.

    Robinson vs Leonard is closer than a lot of people want to believe, and I think Leonard is capable of winning. If he fights within range and does his normal thing, I see him getting outdone, but I think Sugar was better with the jab and on the move than even Robinson, and I think it's possible he could outbox him.
     
  4. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    robinson beats both.

    aginst floyd, robinson and leonard would beat him but mosley would lose at 147, it would be closer between mosley and floyd at 135.

    you made a good choice in not including the 4th sugar
    'sugar ray clay jones jr' :lol:
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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    I think it's the exact opposite.
     
  6. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Most people have this the other way around with Mosley winning at 135 and Mayweather winning at 147.

    The Mosley that beat De La Hoya in the first fight would beat Mayweather by decision in my opinion. I think he takes the fight to Mayweather, troubles him with his own speed, and basically outhustles him. He'd find himself getting outboxed at times though.

    The current Mosley would get potshotted to a clear loss. And the Mosley at lightweight would lose a razor-thin decision in my opinion.
     
  7. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Robinson beats Leonard and Mosley. Leonard beats Mosley. Both of the Sugar Ray's are bigger and have wins over better opposition than Mosley. Mayweather loses to all of them Prime 4 Prime.
     
  8. Undisputed P4P

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    mosley was much more impressive at 135 than floyd. at 147 he has lost abit of speed and he can't get fighters out of the way like he could with his power at 135.

    floyd was better at 135 than he is at 147.
     
  9. teeto

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    Ive done the Floyd-Robinson 1 a few times, Floyd cant win imo. Not being nostalgic here, it has always been my opinion that no defensive minded fighter can do well against SRR. The attacks are too fast, powerful, and above all- timed to precision and accurately calculated. You will have to attack him to have a prayer imo.

    The other fights are good, Robinson will edge Leonard in a classic imo, i do class Leonard as an attacking fighter personally, most of his good moves were in order to set up a great attack, and his hooks were so fast! But Robinson just edges it imo, he will hit Leonard with some listering combos.

    Mosley would have a tear-up with the other 2 sugars but again, come up just short against 2 of the very best h2h wws ever imo.

    Mayweather and Leonard is a hard one, but i pick Leonard to pull off something after Floyd doing well on the back-foot.

    Mayweather- Mosley is best at 135, i think Mayweather might get a decision here, maybe not though.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Shane was more impressive at 135 facing B and C level fighters, not to mention what you said about him losing speed is not true. He was a better fighter in pretty much every sense at 147, slightly quicker and certainly stronger, according to himself and film. The difference being he was facing a much higher level of competition. Had he faced Stevie Johnston at 135 we'd have seen just how good he was there. As it stands, he was actually quicker early on in fights with Wise and De La Hoya than he was at LW against any decent level of competition. Difference was simply the competition he was facing.

    The Mosley of today would lose at 147 though.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    Mayweather hasn't been nearly as impressive off the backfoot at 147 as he was at other weights, nor as consistent. He'd be there to be hit a lot more than at lower weights. Leonard would cream him in range.
     
  12. teeto

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    I just meant stylistically, wether he has looked as good or not, essentially that is the man's style. I think that Leonard might be the aggressor as he would fancy himself as bigger and stronger, and Mayweather wouldnt be going at him so Leonard would push it.

    When i said he would do well on the backfoot i meant it as it would be a surprise to most. Because Mayweather would have to do well on the ackfoot, he gets beat up in a fight with Leonard
     
  13. Undisputed P4P

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    mosley has looked good at 147 but at 135 he was a machine and was unstoppable. his power at that division was good enough to get rid of anyone, but like you say he was never tested aginst an A level fighter but what I saw of him I would have backed him against any of the fighters there, as he would have been too powerful and too quick.

    the only reason he is at 147 is because he wants mayweather, but everyone knows that fight aint going to happen.
     
  14. Sweet Pea

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    He was an unstoppable machine against B and C level fighters. He's gotten no better since then, difference is he's now facing bigger, better fighters so he's made not to look as good. He's stronger at 147 and was actually quicker or at least as quick early on at 147(though not anymore at all) as he was at 135.

    He started fighting at WW in 2000, before Mayweather even started fighting there, so I don't see how that makes any sense.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    He'd have to do well on the backfoot to survive, but that doesn't mean he would neccessarily. His only chance at getting anything going would be to counter, and if Benitez ain't doing it(and is getting his own counters countered) than Floyd ain't doing it. Leonard stops Floyd in the late rounds I'd say. Floyd has nothing for him at this weight.