30 Day Weigh In: Mayweather 148.2

nobody is at 100% when they have to cut weight. The difference is the competition you'll be facing at the smaller weight class. You'll be bigger relative to the competition. Broner isn't 100% at 135, but he'd do better there than at 147 because of his size.

 

my argument is that floyd walks around at 7-8 percent bodyfat day in and day out. bodybuilders will go to show around three to five percent and there is one alleged death at three percent.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=126838283&page=1

bodybuilding is an anaerobic sport as opposed to boxing being aerobic so weight cutting is less extreme as the body demands more in aerobic.

if floyd walks around at 7 and can cut to five without his body shutting down youre looking at a whole 3-4 pounds from his current weight of 148, meaning 144...the catchweight with jmm(floyd just said **** it as it wasnt worth the risk to make the agreed contract weight).

if floyd could make 140 hed be fighting there as well as 147 and 154 simulataneosly holding belts in three different weight classes(jww,ww,jmw).

how many championship boxers have been able to do this successfully?

none(armstrong was at fw,lw,ww).

 

I'm not an expert on this stuff but I'd love a genuine explanation.

I keep hearing that Floyd can't cut much more weight because he has such low bodyfat already. However, aren't bodyfat/muscle density and dehydration/rehydration totally separate issues?

Someone like Ortiz (there are tons of examples, it's common for fighters to rehydrate 10lbs plus) is 147lbs the day before the fight. My understanding is this means he is in fighting shape and has then completely stripped hid body of water. He comes out the next night at a ripped, muscular 164lbs. Obviously that 17lbs is not muscle or fat. You can't transform your body, become fat or muscular in 24 hours- RIGHT? The difference is water.

So obviously that 17lbs, which is stripped off Ortiz' frame by a process of dehydration, can be added back on within 24 hours. Although I understand this isn't particularly healthy for the fighter, come fight night he has pretty much regained his physique during that 24 hour period.

So- it's just water right? So are you trying to tell me that Floyd's body doesn't have as much water in it? :? People with low body fat are permanently dehydrated?

 

Floyd isn't 7% bodyfat. He's closer to 8-10. And Floyd doesn't need to lose a lot of muscle and fat to get to 140. He can lose 7 pounds of glycogen and water in a few days right before the weighin to make weight.

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okay, lets say hes closer to 8-10 for arguments sake but maybe he cant get under seven at weigh-in. floyd knows his body and im sure if he could make 140 he would as opposed to fighting bigger guys at 154. perhaps he has problems retaining the water after making a cut?

dont you think that if floyd could make the weight(there is no argument from me that he could make the cut to 140 and the only argument is that it would affect him adversely)successfully and at the same level he is at 147 and 154 that he would do so?

how could anyone deny his greatness if he were to simualtaneoulsy hold three belts in three different weight classes.

 

he fi47 because it's easier for him and the money. The reason he went to 147 originally was because he was chasing Oscar and there were more paydays at that weight. At 140, he already beat Gatti and he couldn't get Hatton and Cotto to fight him then

 

lies

 

Sergio was 174 pounds 30 days before the Chavez fight

 

here pat healy cuts six pounds of water three days before the weigh-in

http://www.legendfc.com/en/news/108...aly-Shares-His-Pre-Fight-Weight-Loss-Program/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Healy_(fighter)

walks around at 185 and cuts 30 pounds to lw.

and mma is three rounds(15 minutes) as opposed to 12 rounds(36 minutes) so presumably mma fighters can cut more because there is less need for endurance.

just saying that my opinion is that if floyd could make 140 and not be drained or lose anything he would.

it would be a lot easier for him to fight a danny garcia, khan or maidaina than guys like lara, canelo, trout, kirkland or rosado that out-weigh him by 15 plus on fight night.

that and hed be a concurrent three belt title-owner between 140-154...a first.

 

You also notice have a lot shorter shelf life then boxer because of these extreme weight cuts.

 

People tend to overlook the fact that when Mayweather fought Marquez back on September, 2009 the date was actually a rescheduled one from its original of July, 2009 when the fight was originally postponed due to a rib fracture injury suffered by Floyd, so making the catchweight limit of 144lbs in actuality was slightly more than a chore for Floyd after recovering from the injury. And still although skeptics and haters alike will continue to make bones about it Floyd, even though he didn't or couldn't make the catchweight limit of 144, still managed to come in at a reasonable limit of 146 which was at the time and almost currently still his normal weight for all of his fights at Welterweight ever since he moved up from 140. And 146 is just one pound beneath the Welterweight limit & 2 pounds over the agreed upon catchweight for the Mayweather-Marquez fight, not 5, 10, or 20 pounds as some people would have you believe otherwise with Floyd rehydrating all the way up to 160. That, by the looks of his current training pics for his upcoming fight with Guerrero, is total nonsense.

When Fernando Vargas fought Ricardo Mayargo in November, 2007 from its original scheduled date of September, 2007 due to a similar injury suffered by Vargas that fight was originally scheduled to take place at a catchweight of 162lbs. But when the fight was rescheduled following Varga's injury the catchweight limit went up to an agreed upon 164lbs to basically accomadate Vargas and his chances to make the weight which in the end he eventually did but barely. That right there is one in a few examples of why it's not easy to cut or lose weight coming off of an injury, especially a serious one having to do with physical internal issues.

 

LOL I don't think the point was whether 146 is a reasonable weight for Floyd - it's practically welterweight weight. I think the point was his opponent who is smaller in every way was coming up directly from 135, his natural body weight then, ballooning himself up inefficiently to fight Mayweather who still couldn't be bothered to respect the small concession given...

But we're digressing from the topic - however let's not try and justify him ignoring that catchweight, there's no excuse considering...

As for the non-stop debating, Mayweather is a solid welterweight who doesn't weigh himself on fight nights for good reason - because he puts a fair amount on over 150 - I mean when he fought Cotto he looked bigger and musclier than Cotto - this guy is a solid welterweight, people saying he's a small welter are dreaming...there are a couple of other welterweights in that division who are "small welterweights" - Floyd isn't one, the fact he has great genetics that allow him to maintain low fat % and stay not far off that weight is a genetic advantage he has over many fighters who do not find it so easy to keep body fat % low for as long a time

 

He can make 140.

He's cut 9lbs before in his career. He could easily do the 8lbs.

 

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