$40M Question?? Why isnt Floyd telling the world Manny wont agree to the drug Tests?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chimba, Nov 17, 2010.


  1. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd Jr. and Sr. both said in their interviews that the drug testing is the only thing holding the fight back. I agree with you that Floyd needs to get on HBO or ESPN and do an interview and tell everybody what's up. He can even do it on twitter because everybody will find out eventually. He needs to put them on blast
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I dont trust those guys as much as I dont trust Arum and Koncz. Floyds down with Kenny right? Then ask Brian to give him a forum to state his side and have Wilbon there.
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously Chimba? The Mayweathers have gotten in MULTIPLE forums and said Pac won't agree. Even Jeff Mayweather made a rare special guest appearance.

    That second line of BS is even scarier! This chump is a puppet of Arum and a congressman OR he is a vile manipulative scumbag. It has to be one or the other. Considering his personal issues? I go with the latter. 0 makes the fight. 7 doesn't. This is black and white... or gold. :good

    I would like as much as you for FMJ to get out there and say something official. At the same time I recognize that the man has done so NUMEROUS times to no avail. Guys like "Lyin" Brian Kenny, Dan "The Fatman" Rafael, etc... use positions as journalists not to dig for and present facts, but to promote a BS biased agenda.

    IMHO, I think Mayweather said his piece and was done with it. The fact Ellerbe wasn't involved seems to validate this. Haymon tried his damnedest to get that money. 7 days wouldn't cut it and judging by the Mayweather ego,unless he is with it? FMJ doesn't count it as negotiations.

    The question is are you stepping into the light? :think
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't trust those guys? You shouldn't. They are his estranged father and a trainer. Just like you shouldn't trust Roach or Buboy.

    You SHOULD trust Arum and Koncz as they are both lawyers and one is his manager. Same way we would trust Ellerbe or Haymon if they made public statements. Guess what? Nobody does.

    Now one person did, ODLH, but he walked those statements back. He is also not a legal representative.
     
  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Then Floyds legacy is pretty much kaput and he will be ridiculed far worse later when u look back at history. But Im sure he will take solace in the fact that there are his most loyal fans that will defend him til the end here on ESB.
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    If I was close with Floyd I would tell him to do that, but I don't know where he priorities are at right now
    Plus I don't know if they that close :lol:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw9XqiBXKgM[/ame]
     
  7. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only by those why'd ridicule a professional prize fighter more for asking for full random blood testing (that he just got in his last fight with no problem) over a professional prize fighter that won't accept it.
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Dude cmon man, let not be naive about it. All of America has basically turned on Floyd. Just look around and watch and read. Only guy in the media in Floyds corner is Atlas. And even fighters like RJJ, BHOP and Hagler are going at Floyd.

    He needs to defend his rep.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Honestly man I understand where the Pac fans come from. This is "their" fighter going to heights not really seen on the world stage. Doubly so for Asians. He has crushed all BS strerotypes and still remained "humble" representing the culture well. This has forced many to overlook the warts and bumps of his past the same way people overlooked Ali womanizing, crapping on guys, and using them to boost his fame, i.e., Frazier.

    Mayweather's legacy is fine. Even stronger in the Black community. Ali is the father of the "Slick Black American Pure Boxer/Counterpuncher". All Black Boxer's of this style today were fueled by Ali. The same SBAB has also been warned. Mayweather's legacy is intact to any fan who watched Ali go from this:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnYCTh_DSLM[/ame]

    To this:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki4UKsI8bms&feature=related[/ame]

    It is fair and reasonable for a man not to want to become this over cheating. :bart
     
  10. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd wasn't the most liked person before Manny came onto the scene. He's used to negative attention. Nothing he says will alleviate the negative situation he's in except that he will fight Manny next year, if that. And as I said in my post on the other page, I'm not sure he can even do that with his court case going on. And again, if anything, he could come out to the media and say Pac's only agreeing to these terms himself now because he knows Mayweather and his uncle have court stuff to deal with.
     
  11. PeteDawg

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    Well, that's obvious Sr. is no financial wizard.

    It still doesn't excuse Floyd Jr. from directly answering what happened the second time around.

    How the hell is GBP President De La Hoya going to say that "negotiations are really close" to "well, there weren't any negotiations going on"?

    We still have two of three parties that took part in the negotiations, confirming that they were indeed going on. Floyd Jr. hasn't given his side of the story, except to have his flunkies say there "no negotiations". Well, that might fly with you, but it sure as hell doesn't fly with me. And it sure as hell doesn't JIVE with the rest of the media; which explains why Mayweather Jr. is getting crucified in the press. They hate being LIED to and made to look like fools. :deal
     
  12. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I guess youre right. Floyd always really has never been media friendly. Hes almost some kind recluse, a bit insecure and really a nice guy. But man he could have been Americas Golden boy, ala SRL. Ive seen a bit of him in the early days, he seems very geniune and nice. WTF happen to him, when did this change?
     
  13. PeteDawg

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    Well, this is what happens when you look at a problem in the short term and superficially. The media isn't going to forget the crap that Floyd Jr. pulled. The writers of today are going to be tomorrows historians and while Floyd Jr. still has his money in the long run all this is going to bite him in the ASS. :hey
     
  14. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I dont know where youre getting at Bald. Ali became like that because he took too many punches. Hes not Mayweather at all in many ways. Hes a pure reflex based defense ala Roy Jones. As for Floyd, I doubt hed be remembered like Pernell because Pea never had a Pac that foil he never fought. As a matter of fact, the opposite effect can occur when with Floyd, they will remember him not for the skills but for not fighting certain guys at the right time.
     
  15. CasualFan

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    Because the first negotation is about Pride and EGO from both fighters. No one in either fighter willing to bend to make the fight happen. Then 2nd negotation start, Pacquiao is now willing to bend to make the fight happen then it failed again. 3rd negotation start again, this is it!! big fight of this era will gonna happen in 2011:happy



    it must be.