42 yr old george foreman v prime alexander povetkin ?

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    hahahahaha, no, what do you think people do here in the forum? people talk about boxing.

    Just you are bored, you want to talk about foreman and povetkin, you open this thread. That's all, everybody have a nice talk, "i love this" "i love that" "he's my hero, the best ever" "i hate him, he doesnt know **** about boxing" bhablahblah, everybody has a good time, man, and that's all.

    You dont have to take every single thread in this forum so seriously. At least noone here is trolling XDDDDD
     
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  2. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Foreman by Murder ....42 Year old Foreman still defeats Him end of story...
     
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  3. superstarstu

    superstarstu Member banned Full Member

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    You know what you're right sorry for being a dumbass
     
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  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let's see:

    That version of George Foreman needed a majority decision to beat Alex Stewart. A guy who was blown away in the first round by Mike Tyson and stopped by Evander Holyfield.

    This version of George Foreman got out-boxed and out-pointed by the inferior and more limited Tommy Morrison.

    I see absolutely no reason why Povetkin couldn't beat this version of George Foreman. Not only that, I see Povetkin as the CLEAR favorite to decision Foreman. I believe Foreman's durability was significantly better than after his comeback, compared to his younger days, because of extra size and mass. Along with his ability to control the pace of fights without gassing (energy conservation). Which is why I believe he lasts the distance and Povetkin is unlikely to KO him. But I see this fight going the same way the Povetkin - Mariusz Wach fight went. Povetkin beats Foreman up like a punching bag in route to a 12 rounds, lopsided unanimous decision win. That version of George Foreman was never really any better than Mariusz Wach.

    And in truth, I'd actually favor prime Povetkin to cleanly KO prime George Foreman in a shootout. When you see prime George Foreman getting dropped by a bum with nearly 20 losses that is also a feather fist in Jimmy Young. And also getting dropped by Ron Lyle. Then I can't see Foreman having a reasonable chance at beating Povetkin.

    Povetkin's opponents whom he beat decisively in Eddie Chambers and Chris Byrd, are SIGNIFICANTLY superior in terms of quality than the bum that George Foreman lost against in Jimmy Young. I'd expect Eddie Chambers to beat prime Foreman via decision, like how he beat Samuel Peter. I'd favor Chris Byrd to also beat Foreman in a similar fashion. Prime Foreman was overrated and was not really any better than Samuel Peter.

    And it's a myth that Povetkin can't box on the back foot. He ABSOLUTELY can! He did that in many of his fights. He did that at times against Eddie Chambers and against Joshua. Povetkin has EXCELLENT in-out movement. He knows how to step out of range to avoid danger. He also knows how to step into range to land his punches. If he wants to keep safe, he can box someone like Foreman at mid-range and he is more than capable of doing so.
     
  5. BCS8

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    I can't see how anybody would seriously favour OLD Foreman over a prime Povetkin, let alone be of the opinion that gramps beats Povetkin to a pulp. Fanboyism is the only explanation I have. I guess old man Foreman might have a Moorer moment and land a bomb. But Povetkin has a good chin and heart, gonna take more than getting lucky once to beat him. And that's an outside chance. Old Foreman was as mighty and inexorable as a mountain glacier, but he was about as slow as one too.
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    :meparto::meparto:

    That comment just invalidates your entire post.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    Posts by Dinovelvet are automatically devalued by 50%
     
  8. David B

    David B Nazi Russia lies. This is the only truth. Full Member

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    This would be a copy of the Moorer fight except for the knockout .
     
  9. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It might do to posters like you, who pretend PRIME George Foreman didn't fight and lose to Jimmy Young, whilst getting dropped and whilst getting TOTALLY schooled in the process. The same Jimmy Young who happens to have around 20 losses in his career record and happens to be a TOTAL bum.

    Guess what? Eddie Chambers is better than Jimmy Young in every department. Doesn't have anywhere near as many losses as Jimmy Young. Can do everything Jimmy Young can do, but at a higher level. Plus more!

    If Povetkin got dropped and lost to Eddie Chambers, what would you lot be saying? You'd be mocking Povetkin obviously. But when Foreman gets totally outclassed, out-boxed, dropped and loses in humiliating fashion to Jimmy Young, we are supposed to turn a blind eye on that?

    It's one thing to lose a fight in the heavyweight division from a random power punch. It's another thing to lose the way Foreman did, where he was out-boxed and outclassed over a period of rounds. There's no excuses for that, other than having to admit that Foreman lacks class, quality and abilities to stand much of a chance at beating someone with the quality of Povetin.
     
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  10. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a horrible stylistic match up for POV.
     
  11. Jackatomic

    Jackatomic Member Full Member

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    I’d question him against the 42 YO George. Against prime, Pov would be eaten up.
     
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  12. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Foreman crushes him. Povetkin in his prime isn't half the fighter Holyfiled was in 1991. Povetkin might be able to outpoint a 47-48 year old Foreman though.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    But he was twice the fighter that Stewart or Morrison was.
     
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  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Povetkin UD with 119-109 type scores. A mauling where George could/would get hurt.
     
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  15. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    True but styles makes fights. Stewart and Morrison didn't go right at Foreman like Pov likes to do. Show me a fight where Pov boxes off the back foot, darting in and out and trying not to engage and then I could see an argument for Povetkin winning, but with how he usually fights I can't see that happening.

    Joshua had a lot of success with his heavy jab vs Povetkin and Foreman had a better jab than current AJ, I see Foreman having success with his jab and using it to set up a big right hand or uppercut.

    I just can't see Povetkin being able to push Foreman back, he's too big and strong and he'll get pushed around and pushed onto the back foot and when that happens Povetkin will become far less effective.

    Povetkin will likely do very well as he's a damn good fighter that could compete in any era but nobody stands with Foreman and wins. Holyfield moved a huge amount vs Foreman was on his toes a lot of the fight between unloading his combo's. Morrison too moved and boxed for the first time ever not daring to stand and trade with big George. Stewart used tons of movement, even the much younger Briggs didn't go in throwing bombs like he usually does and boxed Foreman, knowing standing in front of him would eventually see him KO'ed.
     
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