46 years ago today - Ali won the World title for 1st time.

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  1. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is 46 years to the day that Muhammad Ali (then still known as Cassius Clay) became world heavyweight boxing champion for the first time by knocking out Sonny Liston in Miami.

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    Boxing Classics - Sonny Liston v Cassius Clay - February 25 1964

    by Lee Bellfield - Saddoboxing


    It was the summer of 1960. Floyd Patterson was the World Heavyweight Champion. Sonny Liston was terrorising the division. And Light Heavyweight Cassius Clay was winning Olympic Gold in Rome despite being afraid of flying. Little did we know at this time Clay and Listons paths would cross again.

    Floyd Patterson had just regained the championship from Ingemar Johansson. Sonny Liston was eager for a shot but Patterson’s manager Cus D’Amato refused to allow his fighter to fight Liston due to his criminal past. In fact the newspapers were stating at the time whether Liston should actually be allowed to fight for the championship. However while Patterson was defeating the likes of Tom McNeeley, Liston was defeating contenders such as Cleveland Williams and Eddie Machen.

    Patterson however bowed to public pressure and defended against Liston in 1962. To the surprise of no-one Liston took the title knocking out the champion in the first round. There was a rematch and Patterson had the satisfaction of lasting a few seconds longer.

    Cassius Clay began his professional career not long after winning Olympic Gold defeating Tunney Hunsaker on points after six rounds. He continued his unbeaten path over the next three years defeating the likes of Archie Moore, Sonny Banks, Doug Jones and Henry Cooper more often than not predicting the round in which he would do it. Clay then proceeded to stalk the champion even turning up uninvited at Listons house one night with a bear net.

    The fight was to be on February 25 1964 at Miami Beach. Clay was made a 7-1 underdog leading Clay to say “If you wanna lose your money then bet on Sonny”. Most boxing writers though didn’t give Clay a chance saying it was cruel to let a pretty boy in the ring with an ex convict. At the weigh in Clay was hysterical predicting that Liston would fall in eight. The weigh in to be honest was a shambles and this was what Clay wanted. He was fined $1500 by the Miami Boxing Commission for his outburst.

    Witnesses believed that the challenger was actually scared to death but when Clay’s doctor checked him later he was perfectly normal.
    The arena In Miami that night was half full. People thought that this was going to be another quick night for Liston. The fight started with Clay circling the ring making Liston look ponderous. He certainly didn’t look like a 7-1 underdog. In Round 3 Clay opened a cut over Listons eye with a left/right combination. The challenger was boxing beautifully.

    Suddenly however there was a crisis for Clay. In Round 4 a liniment from Listons eye got into Clays and the challenger had difficulty seeing. By the start of Round 5 Clay was blind and Angelo Dundee’s only instructions for the round was run.

    Clay spent Round 5 back pedalling from Liston just poking out a left to the champions face. It was amazing but Clay was fighting one of the most feared heavyweight champions ever completely blind. Clay though weathered the storm and by Round 6 Clays eyes had cleared and he spent the round dictating the fight again. A weary Liston headed back to his corner.

    Amazingly Liston stayed on his stool at the start of Round 7 claiming a shoulder injury. Most people that night thought that Liston had just quit. Clay went into a frenzy pointing at the press saying that he told them so and then stating “I shook up the world”

    This was to be the last ever fight for Cassius Clay. A day after winning the title he denounced his “slave name” and from then on became Muhammad Ali.

    Ali and Liston would meet a further time for the title, once again in controversial circumstances.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14m_-kALStA[/ame]

    ...the pre-fight introductions alone make this video worth a watch.
     
  2. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great stuff....this is a good idea for a thread....you know....something like....."BOXING - What happened on this day" :good
     
  3. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would be really useful for people with really short or selective memories hey Ash?
     
  4. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep I couldnt even remember the thread title....I had to go look it up :lol:
     
  5. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone else went digging for a thread like that and you'd be refering to them as a Troll mate.

    Might start a thread called 'What Happened 26 Weeks Ago' just for you Ash - LOL!
     
  6. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: You pair need to call a truce . :good
     
  7. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe :lol:

    I have told CHB he should keep the thread going and that I enjoyed it....guess he thought I was taking the **** :-(
     
  8. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyway **** all that **** let's not wreck another decent thread with all that bollocks , CHB i for one would appreciate a return of the what happened on this day in History thread if you are willing . .
     
  9. StiffJab

    StiffJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  10. COULDHAVEBEEN

    COULDHAVEBEEN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cheers Josey.

    Just lost the momentum of doing those threads when I was on holidays over the Christmas period - may get some renewed enthusiam again at some stage.

    As for a truce. I didn't really want to digress into that shite in this thread - but as you've gone there:

    As I posted to someone in a PM yesterday mate, Ash is a nice enough bloke. The thing I got wrong about him was that I incorrectly assumed he was a big enough man to admit when he was wrong.

    Saying you are wrong is never easy. I've done it enough times myself to know that! But it clears the air and maintains people's respect for you.

    Anyway, enough said.
     
  11. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    i dont care what anyone says, the greatest HW of all time, it pains me to think what he could have achieved in his hiatus, but thats another story

    seeing SRR, Joe Louis and Rock Marciano was a great piece of history. SHows you what the HW division meant then to what it does now. In 1964 the HW champ of the world was a top celebrity, everyone knew him and boxing was the sport of kings...How it has changed

    **** you Don King

    How much did Joe Louis sound like Emmanuel Steward :rofl
     
  12. StiffJab

    StiffJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For me it's Larry Holmes, cause Ali aint even worthy to hold his jock strap :yep
     
  13. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    Holmes had a killer jab but he didn't fight the opposition Ali did. He was champ in a weaker era. Prime Ali would have won a close decision against holmes. His ability to adapt would have been the different
     
  14. hofguy

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    Your title is not quite correct.
    It is 47 years ago today.
    Convention Hall, Miami Beach, 25th February, 1964.
     
  15. ipswich express

    ipswich express Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Certainly would've been interesting to see him and Frazier go at it without the time out of the sport. Similarly it would've been interesting to see Sonny fight Frazier if Clay wasn't around. The division is still capable of being important. Certainly it was when Holyfield and Tyson were at their peaks. Interest began to decline with Lewis and has completely tapered off now. I don't like King, but he's promoted some of the best Heavyweight fights of all time.