5:10 round... WTF

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by konundrum, Jan 30, 2009.


  1. owell

    owell Active Member Full Member

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    Canada is slowly inching its way to becoming a laughing stock in the boxing circle...
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    In Canada, boxing is plighted by an incredibly incompetent IBF timekeeper (see Bute vs. Andrade and Urango vs. Ngoudjo) - one man - , whom the IBF should get rid off immediately. However, in Canada, unlike in the USA, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc., the local favourite isn't gifted wins by corrupt judges and referees on a regular basis (see the Malignaggi vs. Ngoudjo decision (USA) or the Malignaggi vs. N'dou II decision (Britain)).

    In other words, you don't have a point.

    In Canada, the refereeing and judging is fairer than in the USA, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc., and a travelling fighter has a much smaller chance of getting robbed (see Urango vs. Ngoudjo, for example).

    I cannot think of one high-profile instance in which a travelling fighter was robbed blind in Canada, although I can think of plenty of high-profile instances where a travelling fighter was robbed blind in the USA, Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc.

    What is more, Canada has a reputation for home judges who are always harsher on the local favourite than the judge from the travelling fighter's back-yard or the judge from the neutral location (see the scores given by the Canadian judge for Bute fights, for example).

    In other words, you talk of things you know nothing about.
     
  3. Fighting Fisherman

    Fighting Fisherman Active Member Full Member

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    True! :good
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    He has built legs too, think hes a roider
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Sorry for you, Bute fights on March the 13th, Bradley-Holt on April the 4th, the same day Andrade and Tsypko for a title shot. If I understand you well, no more title fights in California because the officials were unable to notice Margarito was cheating. No more title fights in Las Vegas because I remember some fights with a bad scoring. No more title fights in Germany... I let you choose the reason.

    So, where do you come from?
     
  6. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Thanks for saving me time with your excellent posts. Are the timekeepers hired locally or are they appointed by the IBF, in this case?
     
  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol....maybe they thought it was MMA rules?
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    All timekeepers are sanctioned by the sanctioning body in question and the local boxing commission, just like the referees and judges. However, just like referees, timekeepers tend to be local. It seems the timekeeper in question is a local timekeeper who keeps time in IBF sanctioned fights. Who appointed him? The local boxing commission and the IBF. Of course, the promoters and fighters could ask for a different timekeeper to be appointed, if they felt like it, just like they can ask for a different referee and judges, since they pay for their services. If the IBF don't dismiss this timekeeper and/or the local boxing commission don't withdraw his licence (which they should), the promoters involved in IBF sanctioned fights in the Montreal area should certainly ask for this timekeeper to be replaced in future.
     
  9. Holsten81

    Holsten81 Member Full Member

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    Last 2 big fight = farce.

    Common 5min rounds Marlin Wright still getting big fights. bad calls happen everywhere but only in Germany and Canada can such farces carry on.

    120-106 common!
     
  10. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sloppy and unacceptable.Hardly a professional performance for the Quebec Commission,AGAIN!:dead
     
  11. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    No excuse for that I've never seen anything like that before.
     
  12. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shows you Canada can put on a good event but not a good boxing match. They need to work on their fundamentals.
     
  13. menemsha43

    menemsha43 Member Full Member

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    I couldn't believe my eyes when I was watching that. Totally incompetent
     
  14. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    You're mixing things here. The judge who gave 120-106 was an American one from Las Vegas, Nevada. I don't think it's in Canada, is it? He was way out. If you want to criticize the judges job, we'll have a long thread, and not specifically a Canadian one. The timekeeper should not work again in title fights, unless something explains his error. An electronic problem, or something. Even then, I cannot believe they have only one timing clock. If it's the same who didn't ring the bell in the Bute-Andrade fight, he definitely shouldn't work again on title fights. That leads me to the Marlon Wright part of your post. See, as soon as Bute got up, the timekeeper should have rang the bell. Everything Wright did after that was strickly by the rules. Every poster that has taken the time to look at the rules admit that. I guess you didn't. Wright is appointed by the IBF, who looked at Wright's work with professionnal eyes, not irrational fans eyes. So what's your point again?
     
  15. Holsten81

    Holsten81 Member Full Member

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    Teddy atlas scoring was very questionable also i thought urango ran away with it.