5 exercises for KO power

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Misfit, Oct 9, 2015.


  1. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Strength gains are primarily neurological, you learn to be strong and recruit what muscle mass you have. It is even more important for someone who is malnourished.
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who is this guy and why does he hate me? Lol
     
  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm not a fan of Poliquin. He was a respected guy back in the day when he was involved with the Canadian olympic team and research.
    Somewhere along the way he started getting into pseudoscientific concepts and Chinese medicine, he's said some things over the years that have left him as a bit of a target of ridicule in the industry.
    I certainly wouldn't listen to his dietary advice, and a lot of his training ideas are based on his own personal anecdotes.
    Cressey is very good.
     
  4. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wrong, if you are malnourished then you aren't getting the proper calories to even maintain your current body weight much less have energy for a workout and you aren't getting the proper protein to repair your muscles from a workout thus not being able to get strength gains. Much less support the current body you have.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow. Lol.

    From some of your posts I thought you were new to training but damn. Trying to correct one of the most knowledgable guys here with BS. Lol
     
  6. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You speak bluntly and you say something they don't agree with and they view you as the devil. Sensitive dudes. The work I'm involved in is full of disagreements and debates, to illustrate your point you use sound logic and evidence. On here people aren't really capable of defending their views so they attack the person. I like you virus :lol:
     
  7. dealt_with

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    Lifting weights for strength is not metabolically taxing, certainly not compared to boxing workouts so it's a very good payoff for little energy.
    It also increases your movement efficiency by strengthening and stiffening your tendons, so you put in less energy to do the same work. The stronger you are the less diffusion there is in the brain, that means it takes less effort and energy to perform the same movement. That means skills are easier to learn and execute.
    It's not about muscle, you're not lifting weight to get muscles. But by recruiting those muscles in a malnourished state you are saving them to an extent, at least they're getting some mechanical stimulus so atrophy isn't going to be as drastic.
     
  8. Mr.DagoWop

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    Wrong again, protein does more than just give you big muscles. It heals your muscles after a workout. If you don't get any protein then your muscles don't heal and you do more bad than good. I wish it was a easy as what you said.
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dago, what are you going on about?

    Reread what dealt with said. You're trying to prove something DW didn't even touch on.

    It's clear you're trying to score points, to be honest you chose the wrong person to try that with.

    DW'S posts are very informative if you look at them and want to learn instead of attacking him.
     
  10. Mr.DagoWop

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    He said that you aren't lifting to get muscles. He was saying that you can build strength without protein. This is incorrect.

    Sit down son I just cured the virus.
     
  11. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Strength is neurological. Do you understand what that means?

    Also, he didn't say anything about protein...
     
  12. Mr.DagoWop

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    Everything is neurological dumbass. Quit trying to sound smart, you know nothing on the subject. What you and DW are trying to say is that someone who cannot maintain their own body weight on a daily basis would be able to make incredible strength gains. This is impossible. Without protein someone would hardly be able to stand much less lift 100 lbs on any of the 3 core lifts.

    You are only pressing DW's argument so much because you disagreed with me earlier and I proved you wrong and he disagreed with me so you see no other way to make yourself feel like a man than to d*ckride another man.
     
  13. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In what context?

    I don't? How did you come to this conclusion?

    I have no idea what you're blabbering on about.

    You said somebody who is malnourished would get nothing out of lifting weights. DW explained that strength is neurological meaning it doesn't come down to calories, it's about training the CNS.

    You are now going on about protein and making incredible strength gains...

    Again with the protein...

    You didn't prove me wrong on anything.

    We disagree with you because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
     
  14. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carry on digging your hole, mate.
     
  15. Mr.DagoWop

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    Will you ever explain your responses? All you ever say is "again with the protein" or simply "no".

    I'm going to explain this crystal clear because you obviously have the education of a 1st grader. A person who is malnourished is also underweight, and very unhealthy. Calories provide energy for your body and for your CNS to function properly. Without energy you cannot perform at your best when working out. That is why some days you can bench more than on other days. It's because of your carbohydrates and calories. PROTEIN allows your muscles to recover from a workout. ALSO, protein strengthens your bones, builds/ repairs tissue, maintains healthy skin, and grows hair, nails among other things. If I ate 0 calories in a day would I be able to lift as much as I could on a day where I ate the proper amount of calories to sustain my lifestyle? No

    Where in the above paragraph do you disagree?