5 exercises for KO power

You can't seem to grasp that some guys are going to be relatively powerful no matter what they do (the list of things I mentioned before). You can't seem to grasp that Golovkin would be stronger and more powerful if he made his body stronger and more powerful (that's what weights do, it's defining the laws of physics and physiology if they don't).
Golovkin can seemingly get away with not doing serious weightlifting (at least in the middleweight division) but he does incorporate resistance training (that's exactly the same as lifting weights), he wrestles (utilizes the triple extension used in weightlifting, involves a lot of pulling - the same as a deadlift and rowing exercises) so I don't know why you think these exercises mentioned are some crazy thing that he's not somehow familiar with and would totally throw off his game. Weights are simply movement under load.
Golovkin says it's his timing that gives him power. He may in fact not be powerful compared to his opponents. He places his shots well at the right time. He is the one who tries to paint a picture that he's not physically impressive. If you're not as good a boxer as Golovkin, then hey you should probably do something to make yourself stronger and more powerful.

 

Sorry I'm posting and pulling up things on my phone. The problem you have and a lot of people involved with boxing have is that you believe weightlifting = bodybuilding. That's such an inaccurate, antiquated perception of what an athlete lifts weights for.
The fact is that the majority of top pros (Floyd, Kovalev, Lomachenko, Rigo etc.) all use strength coaches to develop their physical capacity. Even if Golovkin doesn't employ someone for that specific purpose he still does the same movements under load. And I have no idea why you're set on singling out Golovkin as an example for a generalisation when he's clearly not an average guy.
Weightlifting is strengthening, you're more likely to put on weight and be not as strong if you do 5 sets of 30 push ups compared to 5 sets of heavy bench press with 3 reps. That's just physiology.

 

I don't believe that at all, I do some lifting myself. But I wouldnt suggest a guy like Golovkin start lifting NOW for all the reasons that have been explained ad nauseum. Nor Froch for that matter. Some fighters just dont need it, and it can be detrimental for them to significantly change their training methods. What more is there to say.

 

So hes already doing resistance training which you say is intrinsically identical to doing iron. Ok so why would you want him to start replacing those exercises with moving iron? I dont get it. If they are the same whats the point? It works for him.

Also you dont think Golovkin is physically impressive in the ring? The dude is like the mountain in there man. Almost never takes a step back and has always dominated opponents. Of course the biggest reason for that is that he actually knows what hes doing in the ring, but he certainly doesnt take a back seat to anyone when it comes to physical dominance. Watch him hit the heavy bag compared to other guys. You can feel the brute force there, nothing to do with finesse. So I really dont buy it that Golovkin is actually just a small physically average dude in the division but with great boxing skills that make up for it. Dont buy that at all. I think hes incredibly strong for the division and has the skills to match. Both allows him to dominate and destroy opponents at will.

 

What don't you believe? It's no secret about those guys using S+C coaches.
What aren't you hearing? Golovkin does lift, there is video of him lifting weights. And as I mentioned he wrestles as part of his S+C work
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oGX83ryedhw
The things he does are exactly the same as weightlifting, lower body pushing movements utilising the triple extension and upper body pulling. It's exactly the same, and no fighter is ever going to have detrimental effects from performing loaded exercises that are relevant to their sport. That's literally impossible unless they completely stopped boxing training.
It's about developing physical qualities, whether you achieve that buy pulling a load off the ground or you do it by pulling a large super middleweight it doesn't matter. Golovkin and Froch both perform resistance training.

 

I don't think Golovkin has to do anything. It's easier to progressively overload with weights than by finding bigger, stronger guys to wrestle with though. If he ever moves up he is certainly going to need to lift weights to get stronger. A large part of why fighters seem more powerful in lighter divisions is because lever length plays a big part in the amount of torque on a punch. And their opponents are smaller as well.
Golovkin has very good balance, coordination and fantastic scapular control. He is big boned and has good proportions for a middleweight. That's relative to his opponents, if he moves up he will need to get stronger and more powerful to carry his power.
Froch was a big super middle, against other big super middles he never showed any real power in his punches. He succeeded not because of his physical qualities, so again I don't understand why you'd look to him.

 

I wouldnt say that a s&c coach should be addressing joint pain but everything else is bang on. Im not even sure id send an athlete to a physio for joint pain. In fact i wouldnt. Straight to a specialist

 

I was saying I dont believe this at all. I lift and box myself and can see the benefits for myself. Still dont see the need or benefit for golovkin however to start doing these top 5 exercises as mentioned or change what he's doing.

Abel runs the show. I already posted this but here goes again.
" Golovkin’s training style is nothing if not old fashion. Most of his training involves boxing-specific work, bodyweight exercises and virtually zero tradition weight lifting."
[url]http://www.mensfitness.com/training/pro-tips/fit-five-boxing-champion-gennady-golovkin[/url]

Ie AFAIK he doesnt do the "top 5 KO exercises" which was mentioned in the ORIGINAL OP which was what I took exception to. That was the whole point of me even replying in the first place.

 

If he moves up? Who said anything about moving up. This is about him staying at 160 and presumably becoming measurably stronger and more powerful inring due to suddenly changing his routine to incorporate these and other exercises mentioned without diminishing or affecting any of his other qualities. Which I think is wishful thinking at best and possibly detrimental to the fighter at worst.

 

In my own words and thoughts w/out citing sources from the Internet DW is bang on! In the words of a lay person inorder to lift more your going to have to lift more in an up and down movement with pressure on the spine anything else isn't working towards the intended movement. DW has pointed out that GGG is a big man for his division and at some he is going to have to move up just like Toney and Roy Jones Jr. So he best start doing up and down movements with weights putting pressure on his spine. Hope this is understandable for the average person without having to resort to words longer than five letters. BTW (just a footnote) DW is on the same page with my coaches.:bbb

 

You are dead wrong about Golovkins body leaving him no choice but to move up. The dude is already 33 years old and fits perfectly well into the MW division. He's never had problems cutting down to 160 and he doesnt even cut that much relative to other fighters. If he wants to move up I'm sure he will be able to but he doesnt have to. Moving up is also entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand btw :smoke

 

Good thread. I had read a while ago that barbell step ups were pretty good for punching power. Any feedback on this?

 

Do you fools not realize that power is not directly related to strength? Technique>>>>brute strength. Speed>>>strength speed+accuracy+technique>>>power alone every time

 

As I pointed out he basically does do those exercises, but in a different way to develop the same physical qualities.

 

You're developing strength through the triple extension (knee, ankle, hip). The same as a squat.