5 facts regarding Pacquiao - Mayweather

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  1. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    5. This "Olympic style" drug testing has little to do with Floyd himself...we all know how big Floyd's mouth is. We've seen his bash even stand-up guys like Arturo Gatti. I haven't seen a single video of Floyd himself accusing Pacquiao of steroids, and knowing Floyd, if he thought something was up, he'd definitely say so. I think Floyd's father has whispered in his and Ellerbe's ear, but I could be wrong...

    4. Arum and co. are changing the stories. Not Manny...yes, first it was fear of needles, then it was blah, blah, blah...the bottom line is, it's ARUM who refuses to cave to GBP's demands, not Manny himself. Another point - Freddie Roach is smart. He knows how something so simple could affect his fighter...that mental advantage...the point being, this drug test refusal thing has nothing to do with Pac and everything to do with the people around him.

    3. A post fight drug test should be good enough...I mean come on. Let's say Pacquiao wins - in brutal fashion - and ends up failing the post fight drug test. The win would be changed to a no-contest, he'd be blacklisted from boxing, he'd no longer be considered a ATG, his political aspirations would go up in smoke...I could go on. The point I'm trying to make is - why would they risk taking a test that would be so damaging if it came back positive?

    2. Nobody is scared...not Pac, not Floyd. That side of the conspiracy theory is just ridiculous.

    1. Be patient. This fight will happen. Maybe not on March 13th, but rest assured, it will happen before this year is over. Are these the most ridiculous negotiations in the history of sports? Yes. Am I disappointed in both sides? Yes. Will I still shell out $60 for the fight? Of course not...I'll go to a sports bar and watch it for free. But I will be there!
     
  2. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    good post but your are wrong about 2 things, one test after the fight isnt good enough, i have spoken to medical professionals whom say that the tests have to be completely random or there useless because there are masking agents in place that remove said substance from your system in a manner of hours, and enhancers arent used for one night of improved performance, this notion is ridiculous, they are in place to enhance your training leading up to the fight, is more of a long term thing than a short boost, and pac has made open public satements about his reluctance to take the blood tests because he feels it is unnatural, but i agree with your overall point, neither fight is scared and the fight will be made, because no sane person walks away from tht kind of monay
     
  3. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    :patschanother rumor
     
  4. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Olympic style drug testing should be mandatory but no fighter should be able to negotiate the date of the drug tests and that should be left to impartial experts.
     
  5. kylmac85

    kylmac85 Active Member Full Member

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    I think you need to look up the definition of FACT's in the dictionary.
     
  6. hewito

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    well experts have said the only way to go its random,so neither fighter will negotiate the drug tests..here is the keyword........."random"
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :yep:good
     
  8. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Man Tony, you're one of the few brothers that have an objective POV on this thing. Along with Sister Sledge. Of course outside of the ESB Ghetto, RJJ, Judah, Kobe, Magic thinks that Floyds being a *****.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Objective POV?

    Isn't it funny how every expert on either side of the fence, doper or tester, seems to side with Mayweather? :huh

    If your definition of an "objective POV" is a statement from a person with a baseless opinion who has zero understanding of the pertinent facts and no real world experience? Sure it objective. Objectively crap. :bart
     
  10. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Chimba claims that most experts side with Pacquiao. :think
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    No ****:lol: I guess the only news you get there is ESB news
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chimba seems to claim with ZERO references like all *******s. You can use ONLY ESB and find multiple experts siding with FMJ. Matter of fact the foremost experts in the field. The problem is that none of the *******s can reference anyone with a crendential other than being a nut hugger.

    Chimba, links please to these "objective" outside sources?!?!

    Sorry misdirected the first post.
     
  13. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    No, but I don't think there's anything wrong with ESB news anyway. It's a good source for boxing stuff.

    And wtf is wrong with you degrading my country all the time?
     
  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OMFG brain explosion. Like the idea of testing for masking agents is a totally unheard of. Free roids for everyone!!!
     
  15. boxsensei

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    Point # 3 is terribly flawed in a number of different ways. First, as was mentioned of above, the drug can be used during training and the cycled off so that it doesn't show by the time of the post fight drug test.

    But even more glaring, is your suggestion that even if if Pac won in brtual fashion, the win would be revoked and he would be blacklisted,etc...... Really???

    What about Shane Mosley. People love Shane and seem to conveniently forget that he cheated. You would never know that Shane Mosley was a steroid using piece of **** by the love he gets on this boord.

    Also while I don't think Pac could win in brutal fashion, PED'S or not, lets say that hypothetically happened. Do you think that Mayweather would take any comfort in knowing that he got caught after the fact? The damage has already been done.

    Look at the sad Billy Collins Jr. situation. They caught Resto with the loaded gloves, AFTER THE FIGHT, and stripped him of the win and put him in jail. A lot of good that did poor Collins. He got hit upside the head with rocks for 12rds, was badly damaged, suffered permanent eye damage, lost his livelyhood, and eventually took his own life.

    But hey, at least they caught Resto, after the fight...right??:patsch