5 Fantasy fights U dream about, and why ?

Jack Dempsey(toledo) vs. Joe Louis(Baer) is tops for the reasons you listed. Some serious leather being thrown in that one.

Ezzard Charles vs. Sam Langford at LHW Would be a crazy mix of styles, fast hands, and power. Someone's getting KTFO!

Henry Armstrong vs. Willie Pep at FW- Most epic swarmer/boxer matchup I can think of. Dynamite. I wonder how often Henry would catch Willie?

Harry Greb vs. Marvin Hagler at MW- Old versus new, lots of butts, lots of dirty ****, lots of blood, two iron chins, big will to win.

Joe Gans vs. Benny Leonard vs. Roberto Duran- Any match between the three would be incredible, three very different styles that dominated, all individual top 15 atg fighters...

 

Dempsey vs Marciano- I'd say a good pairing, evenly matched, with different strengths. Tough fight for both guys.

Frazier vs Louis- See above (and avatar).

Williams vs Duran- Always think of these two meeting up. Violence. Pure violence.

Armstrong vs Pryor- Many of the same strengths played against each other. High action, high contact fight.

Charles vs Patterson- Interesting matchup that I could see either way.

 

Robinson Leonard

 

Ike vs. Roberto would be explosive! Nice one.

Off the top of my head here goes.

1) Charley Burley vs Sugar Ray Robinson (just has to be settled)
2) Archie Moore vs. Tommy Loughran (2 of the smartest boxers i've seen footage of, beautiful chessmatch i would think)
3) Joe Frazier vs James Toney (the one that beat Holyfield) I think Toney is slick enough and can take a good enough punch to make this a classic match. Great at avoiding left hooks too.
4) Arguello vs. Duran (I see this as being similar to Hearns and Hagler but lasting a lot longer.)
5) Wilfred Benitez vs. Aaron Pryor (I would watch this fight a million times. I can't see this being anything less than astounding)

 

This pretty much changes on a daily basis, Burt.

Matchups that make me think...
Leonard/Walker
Frazier/Marciano
Monzon/Burley
Armstrong/Williams
Duran/Basilio

 

Sonny Liston - George Foreman

Joe Frazier - Mike Tyson

Jack Dempsey - Joe Louis

Sugar Ray Robinson - Charley Burley

Roberto Duran - Julio Cesar Chavez

 

I agree with the first two Burt mentioned:

- Dempsey vs Louis

- Louis vs. Ali

- Jack Johnson vs. Lennox Lewis

- Jim Jeffereis vs. Mike Tyson

- Jack Dempsey vs. Wladimir Klitschko

 

Ali-Marciano
In prime form, Ali takes a hard-fought decision, and concurs with his prediction that Marciano was his toughest challenge ever.

Ike Williams-Roberto Duran
In the battle for ultimate LW, this display of blood and violence ends with both men struggling to stand by fights' end. Williams edges it on points through cuts, but an argument can also be made by the bruises inflicted by Duran on Ike's ribs.

George Foreman-Joe Louis
In the ultimate HW punchfest, both men are severely bloodied and bruised. But it eventually comes down to who's the bigger, stronger man. We all know who that is.

Ray Robinson-Dick Tiger

Ray the better all-around boxer, while Tiger is the bigger, stronger man with murderous punching power and sound technique as well. Had these two met then, I feel Tiger would've been the toughest opponent SRR faced. Which is the case in the match, as Robinson does need every skill he has in barely outpointing the Nigerian in a close decision. As I also feel, Robinson agrees that Dick Tiger is notch above LaMotta, Fullmer, Graziano, Turpin in quality of opposition.

Marvin Hagler-Tony Ayala Jr.

Marvin is in peak form, and Tony has recently grown out of 154 into a full-fledged MW. With KO wins over Moore, Benitez, Duran and Hearns (also having been bested by Hearns once), El Torito is ready to challenge the ultimate MW. And the crowd gets their money's worth, as a MW bloodfest for the ages ensues. Marvin is the better boxer, but Tony unleashes a murderous punching assault that pushes Hagler to the limit. Pressed for sure...but not broken. Hagler has the skills and experience to weather the firestorm, and begins to assert his control as young Tony begins to tire. Hagler recovers and finally puts the young fireball out in the 12th round. The two exhausted warriors embrace with nothing but the utmost respect for each other, both concurring that this was their toughest bout ever.

 

1. "Louis-Ali"
2. "Dempsey-Marciano"
3. "Duran-Chavez"
4. "Foreman-Holmes"
5. "Monzon-Hagler" & "Ketchel-Greb" (tie)

'Nuff said... I wet my shorts at night when I think of these fights happening in the after-life... WORD!

MR.BILL

 

Nice thread

1) Sonny Liston Versus George Foreman. (I'd kill to see video of their sparring sessions)

2) Joe Louis Versus Smokin Joe Frazier

3) Joe Louis Versus Mike Tyson

4) 2002 Lennox Lewis Versus Mike Tyson (1985-1988 )

5) David Tua (1996) versus Mike Tyson (1996)

There are many more I'd love to see, but since I could only pick five...

 

Alberto Davila vs Alan Rudkin

Both guys were excellant technicians, who could adapt and competed with some of the best names at Bantamweight, although falling short, just. Davila has the speed advantages but Rudkin probably has the better timing and accuracy. Just such a close fight.

Luis Manuel Rodriguez vs Carlos Monzon

Rodriguez at his prime at Middleweight was superb, he really seemed to do better against the bigger guys. Here he would face a very stern test but I think he could pull it off, he has the speed and skills to out-box Monzon early like Napoles but also the physical strength to hang with Monzon when it gets tough.

I can't think of anymore that really keep me awake at night debating in my head.

 

Max Schmeling vs. Floyd Patterson (hw)

Freddie Steele vs. Dick Tiger (mw)

Tony Canzoneri vs. Alexis Arguello (sfw)

Mickey Walker vs. Luis Manuel Rodriguez (ww+mw rematch)

Kid Chocolate vs. Eder Jofre (fw)

 

Hagler vs Walker - MW
Duran vs Henry Armstrong - LW
Louis vs Dempsey - HW
Ezzard Charles vs Billy Conn - LH
Bobby Chacon vs Arturo Gatti - SF