5 Major Reasons Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Floyd Mayweather

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  1. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Alright points but first off mayweathers legs arent gone. He just staying in the pocket now because he knows nobody out there can **** with him so why step back?? Once Mosley landed some good shots in round 2 everybody thought Mayweather was gonna start back peddaling or running but he came back in round 3 and put pressure on Mosley. So Hes legs are not gone is you ask me.

    The inactivity I really dont see as a factor. To Me Floyd is 34 but his body is in its early 30's. Mayweather has bearley took any punishment in his career, and with breaks in between the last 4 years, I think its good he did that. The only bad case would've been if he tried to fight Pacquaio with no fight before, Now that hes fighting Ortiz then fighting Pacquiao his next fight after that is no problem.

    Decent points but I still think Mayweather wins. I think his pure boxing skill will win the fight. Massive counters and body work take Pacquiao down, cant wait to see it
     
  2. SonOfCuba

    SonOfCuba Well-Known Member Full Member

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    keep them coming guys.
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    lefty, no. power and speed, no. freddie roach, no. inactivity, no. legs, no. floyd knows how to fight many different ways. he is extremely intelligent in the ring to adapt to any style. floyd is a righty, big problem for pac just like marquez was. power is overrated if u dont know how to use it when necessary. pacs problem is that he doesnt know how to box. he doesnt think in the ring. in order to set up your power shots, u got to have a plan to deliver them. pac just throws punches like a mad man. swing like that against floyd will do him no good because floyd will use his high guard and counter it. freddie is perfect for pac's style, but, for floyd's style of fighting it wont work because floyd does not use that particular style. pac's style is predictable. floyd knows what he is gonna do before he does it. floyd will wait in the pocket and let manny swing and counter off of it. floyd keeps himself in shape all year round plus he is one of the biggest gym rats around. plus he has too much ego in him to let himself slack off. the only chance pac has is if floyd all of a sudden ages over nite. this is one of the reasons why this ifhgt hasnt happened, yet. arum is waiting for floyd to slip just like pac waited for shane to slip before he chose to fight him
     
  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Big reg ****ing schooled you the same way hopkins schooled pavlik and all you can say is I don't want to talk about it after he exposed your stupid logic.

    :rofl

    Typical *******.
     
  5. steve w

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    Floyd possesses the worst possible style for Manny, Floyd is fresh and fast and I believe Manny is in decline, to win Manny has to jump on him early and believe it is a three round fight, I don't care who wins , jst want to see it.
     
  6. Zombieguy

    Zombieguy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Age

    That is the only possible reason Manny could beat Floyd. And we don't even know when/how much that will affect Floyd's fighting.
     
  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    What nonsense. I'll concentrate on the highlighted.

    You believe Pacquiao doesn't know how to use his power when necessary? You believe Pacquiao doesn't know how to box? You believe Pacquiao doesn't think in the ring? You believe Pacquiao just swings like a mad man, in turn he is not able to set up his power shots, then deliver them?

    Sigh...I seriously think you need to watch and study more boxing if you truly believe this.

    Does this even make sense? :huh

    Pacquiao's style is not predictable, his opponents not knowing when he is going to attack, and from what angle makes him very unpredictable.

    Mayweather can and probably will counter Pacquiao, but he will not wait in the pocket.
     
  8. Hoshi

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    Very true. I feel that while Mayweather will lose his reflexes as time goes on hes got the fundementals to be safe. Pacquaio however will lose his speed and thats his key to turning people. Shame the fighters have both been muppets.

    All boxers age/decline differently.
     
  9. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Peds peds peds peds, and peds
     
  10. SonOfCuba

    SonOfCuba Well-Known Member Full Member

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    false allegations.
     
  11. randomwalk

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    I don't see how Floyd can win if he comes at Manny with a high guard like he did against Mosley. If Floyd shoulder rolls I expect Manny to use movement to end up behind Floyd's left shoulder and use that angle. I believe Floyd will lose if he comes forward or stands his ground, so I think he will fight on the back foot trying to catch Manny coming in, grab and repeat. Floyd usually fights in straight lines, but I believe he will be easily be able to implement the Mosley gameplan. If he can land the shots Mosley couldn't get off, he will win unless Manny lands something big.
     
  12. LastQuark

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    The #1 reason should be lost of confidence. When people around Floyd are saying that Pac is on drugs then passed the drug test or his dad saying "I will never let my son fight Pac", he will wilt. Pac already beat him mentally outside of the ring with his lawsuit. Floyd knew he lost the mental advantage already which he was superior in all of his prior opponents.
     
  13. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd fears Pac.

    If Pac defeats Floyd (a 50/50, IMO), the single biggest factor, IMO, will be that fear.

    All but the diehard Floyd fans see that Floyd has been ducking Pac since Pac-Hatton.

    I believe that Floyd has a very slight edge in boxing skills, but Pac has gotten into his head (and his Daddy's head too).

    At the level where these two guys compete, and given how good both are, the mental game is a huge part of the equation.

    Confidence.

    As Boris Becker once mentioned, if it goes to a fifth set, it's not about tennis anymore.

    This one might well hang on the psychological intangibles.

    Mental toughness. Will to win.

    CONFIDENCE.


    And that might be Floyd's downfall.




    PS

    If Floyd struggles with Ortiz and Pac destroys Marquez, it's unlikely this fight will ever happen.
     
  14. papadoc28

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    People talk like Pac can through caution into the wind and just come in and throw non-stop punches without worrying about retaliation. And I think that is just plain dumb.

    People talk like as soon as Pac lands one punch then this fight will be over and Floyd will just pull a Mosley and run the rest of the fight or risk getting knocked out.

    I look at all of Pac's competition since becoming a WW and I don't see anything in those fights that shows me he will beat Floyd.

    Oscar - Didn't even put up much of a fight. One reason is because Manny was kicking his ass and another is because he was drained from the weightloss. Manny would have won anyway but maybe the fight would have been a lot more competitive if Oscar was healthy.

    Clottey - Isn't even worth talking about. He didn't even show up to fight. Yes I believe Pac's punching power and speed had something to do with it. But when Clottey did open up he landed some great shots. The uppercut could have been a money punch had he try to use it more. Either way he is well known for losing his biggest matches anyway and I think he's happy with his status of never being stopped by Pac.

    Cotto - Manny's speed and Cotto's lack of defense/head movement did him in. Cotto did good in the beginning but Manny's speed allowed him to be more successful which as the fight wore on Cotto couldn't deal with it. Manny's power was too much also.

    Margarito - The guy is a one trick pony and I don't understand why anyone thought he would actually win simply because he outweighed Pac. To beat Margarito easily, all you need is stamina and speed. THAT IS IT!!!!!! Stamina to be able to stay on the move and speed to be able to hit him and get out of the way of his punches. If a fighter possesses those 2 things, this fight is easy. Pac has it and he beat him without much effort. Like I knew it would be.

    Mosley - Please. With his new girlfriend(and fine as hell might I add), maybe he didn't want his face to get messed up before taking her on a vacation. Either way he was way past his best and just showed up to get that paycheck. If Manny would have stepped on the gas sooner like he did in the 10th then the fight would have ended.

    Of all those opponents the fastest one was Shane. And that ain't saying much because he didn't use it, unless you count moving away. So do any of those guys possess what Floyd has to give me an idea of how Manny would do against him. NOPE.

    JMM is the only comparison we have. He doesn't have the speed but he has the IQ and counter punching ability. But the difference is Floyd has more discipline to stick with his superior boxing skill that JMM abandoned in favor of trying to brawl with Pac(which is why he hasn't won).

    We haven't seen Floyd in with anyone like Manny. But what we also haven't seen is Floyd back away from a challenge in the middle of a fight and we have never seen him not be able to adapt to whoever he is fighting against. So why people think after Manny lands a few punches on Floyd that he will cower and fold makes no sense to me whatsoever. I expect Manny to blast through JMM simply because we saw how JMM is at this higher weight and he's alot more shopworn now than he was for there 2nd fight. Pac is fighting at his ideal weight anyway so if he struggles in this fight he's done.
     
  15. Blizz42

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    The only way Pac can defeat Floyd is if Pacquiao really is on peds. Since he has never been caught using peds, he can't beat Floyd. Pac has many confused that they truly think Pac can beat Floyd.

    Wins over Cotto, Clottey and Margarito got them thinking this way lmao. These guys are not offensive and defensive juggernauts.

    You'll think this way right up until you're shocked Manny is missing Floyd and getting hit at will, lmao. After 6 rounds if Floyd isn't gone, Pacquiao will be dead meat!