5 Major Reasons Manny Pacquiao Can Beat Floyd Mayweather

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    This is a good point about the distance. It's a shame Pac isn't more adequate up close. He's just not an in-fighter. It's not his style. Which is built upon explosion of speed, power, and movement.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Seems Floyd lost confidence ever since Mosley hurt him in that 2nd round. that wasn't part of the script.
     
  3. Blizz42

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    Its not whether any of the 5 applies to Pac. You have to be able to do those 5 things against Floyd to beat him imo.
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    2 Things here. Floyd fans seem to think Pac struggled against Mosley. Mosley lost every single round. I don't see how that is struggling. Maybe he didn't look sensational against an incredibly mobile and defensive fighter. You can't say Pac struggled against Mosley, and then say Floyd didn't struggle with Judah. Floyd actually lost rounds against Judah.

    Pac fans, if you acknowledge that Floyd's legs/mobility seem to be gone or declined then you can't use harp on the "Past-prime" cliche' as leverage for some excuse. Floyd's movement would always be a huge key and advantage against Pac. Something tells me that if Mosley had the mobility to move away that Floyd could do so well still being able to fight & counter and out-box Pac. Maybe too much of is made of Floyd's legs. Who knows. They're definitely both past their absolute best, though. Hard to be confident that any excuse is more legitimate than the other for either fan based in my honest opinion.
     
  5. Blizz42

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    You can't be serious lmao.
     
  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    His confidence will be fine once he stops Ortiz
     
  7. Blizz42

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    What Pac fans do not see is Pacquiao missing Floyd because Pacquiao in past fights has thrown so many combos, and has been successful landing on inferior guys. Pacquiao has to find a way to keep grinding after he misses Floyd. Pacquiao won't hit Floyd like he has done with those wws. Jmm dodged Pacs combos, and made Pacquiao fight flatfooted which isn't Pacquiaos game. Floyd is bigger, faster and stronger than Jmm

    Beating hittable guys like old dlh, Margarito and Cotto is one thing, hitting Floyd is another. Pac did not have to worry about incoming against Clottey, he will with Floyd. The big question in my book is will Pacquiao keep pushing or will he get frustrated.
     
  8. Blizz42

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    Do you think Floyd lost confidence against Shane in round 2?
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets go through this
    5. Mayweather's Inacitivity: Mayweather is known for taking longer than normal periods between his bouts. It has not had any ill effects on his game. This is a non factor.

    4. Trainer Freddie Roach: If Roach is not the best trainer in the game right now he is at least one of the best. Mayweather also has an outstanding trainer in his uncle Roger Mayweather. I'd rather have Roach than Uncle Roger but having Roger in your corner is not a disadvantage and besides the trainers arn't fighting. This is a slight factor.

    3. Pacquiao is a lefty: So much is made of Mayweather's alldged problems with southpaws. How the philly shell leaves him open to southpaws. How the first four rounds of Mayweather/Judah proves he has problems with southpaws. First of all every boxer even other southpaws have problems with southpaws. While the shell might leave him open to a southpaw, it also makes it easier to throw the stright right left hook combo that is best for fighting southpaws. The shell defense is also made to encurge an attack from your oppoent so you can counter which happens to be what Mayweather dose best. He also fights out of a more conventional stance. Mayweather's early trubbles with Judah may have been due to the fact he can be a slow starter. Perhapps his only flaw in the ring. from rounds 5-12 he did not seem to have any real problems with Judah. Only a factor becuse everyone has trubble with southpaws, but only a slight factor

    4. Mayweather's legs: The way Mayweather fought Mosley is nothing new. It's the way he normaly fights. He dosen't throw a lot of punches. However he is what I call sneekly agresive. He can move around if he needs to though. Not a factor

    5. Pacquiao's speed and power: To beat Maywether Pacquiao is going to need one punch stopping power. He hasn't shown that he has that at 147. Sure Mosley went down in the third but he made it to the final bell. Yes he stopped Cotto and De La Hoya, but both of those were from an acculmation of punches throughout the fight. He has to first of all catch Mayweather who has proved himself at being very very good at not getting hit. As well as the fact we have seen that Mayweather has a very good chin on him.
    Mayweather is just as fast as Pacquiao. If Pacquiao dose have a speed advantage it is only by a hair. At the end of the day this is a non factor.

    At best these are slight advantages, but not enough to make up for the fact that Mayweather is a better boxer and has a style that will make Pacquiao look really bad.
     
  10. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No matter how long it takes before they fight, Floyd has the mental edge.
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    Pac will knock Void out, Void is so afraid of Pac that he will faint at hearing his name!
     
  12. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Absolutely agree, you've got a world class boxer who does everything that gives Pacquaio and his style problems vs a boxer who theoretically gives Mayweather problems due to the fact that a slick fast southpaw once won three of the first four rounds against him.

    Pacquaio has phenomenal physicality but he has never looked good against good footwork and counter punching, he's going against ATG level footwork and counter punching against Floyd when he gets there.
     
  13. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao hasnt faced anyone who made him alter hes strategy or made him think in the ring. What happens when he cant execute hes gameplan? He gets frustrated easily.
     
  14. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao hasn't faced anyone like Mayweather.
    Mayweather hasn't faced anyone like Pacquiao.

    What's your point? You can't use that logic, because both of them hasn't faced anyone like the other.
     
  15. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed .. but I think the inactivity can work for floyd as well as against him ..
    Pros of inactivity are , like forman Floyd saves him self un needed milage and will be less worn..
    cons: Needed timing could be off when facing top level fighters.

    As far as Floyds leg goes , He's only 33 year old I doubt his legs are gone .. Beside Floyd like tony has the basic of boxing down, he can chose to use his legs when he needs to ..

    everyone keeps hyping lefty but Floyd has punished every left he has faced.