5 months later what are your thoughts on Wilder v Fury III looking back?

I don't think it's fair to lay the 4th round and Fury's increased willingness/tendency to take a hit at Steward's door. Fury's application to his camp for III was not as strong and smooth (due to known personal distractions) as it was for II. His defence, while fighting an aggressive fight, was excellent in the first rematch, and he was with Steward then. In the second rematch, he was either more willing or more defensively liable (about equal measures of both, in truth) to take a punch, and that's down to a compound of factors, among which Steward's, uh, stewardship, is not prominent, if even a factor at all.

 

It was more competitive than the last fight because Fury performed terribly and was way too fat (even by his standards).

Ugly but exciting fight, both guys proved yet again they are warriors with grit and determination. It was too ugly for me to consider it a classic, and especially with Fury visibly performing well below his capabilities. I haven’t watched it again and don’t plan to.

If that version of Fury fights Usyk he will lose.

 

Conversely it was Hill in the corner for the flawless performance in fight 2.
There were reports Fury started camp late and carried injuries so maybe that was in part to blame.
Also Wilder was better.
I dont think Hill is anywhere near his uncle but not a con artist either.

 

Entertaining yes, classic, no.

Wilder's stock had fallen from "one of the most dangerous punchers in HW history " to someone with "no jab, bad footwork, no strategy besides a right hand". Yet Fury was knocked down AGAIN by this "C or D" level boxer. And was fat, undertrained and blatantly ducked Joshua to make this needless fight.

 

Not exactly a fair assessment of SH, considering all the personal issues Fury supposedly had leading up to the fight. Sick baby, Covid etc. Can't properly train someone if their motivation is elsewhere. Wasn't Sugar Hill the trainer in the 2nd fight? What? You forgot about that? Fury's best performnce. Or was that a con as well? SMH

 

Luckily for Fury it was a very particular strain of covid which only showed up on that test day and then went straight away which allowed him to be out in public only a few days later.

 

One of the greatest bouts of the history.

 

Yes. that fight will certainly be treated as a classic 2050.

That fight changes the biographies of both fighters, though more Fury. Wilder had already been defeated, and Fury remained undefeated. In this fight, we saw Wilder's famous hit "shockwave", and we will certainly not see that in every other professional fight.
And I don’t think this was Wilder’s best release, but in the Wilder vs Luis Ortiz 2 fight.

Not. Fury was better in the second fight with Wilder. And Wilder's strategy of hitting the body was supposed to be longer than one round.
I still resent that they both took a break of a year and a half between two professional fights.

 

I mean, the latter description was frequently applied to Wilder even while he was being lauded as one of the most dangerous punchers in heavyweight history (which he still is, even if the fanfare has naturally died down on account of two brutal L's he received from the world's heavyweight champeen).

Guys on forums might describe Wilder as C or D level. History won't remember it that way, because it's not accurate. 'Take away his punch yadda yadda yadda', but who gives a damn? We can't take away his punch, it's real and has won him fights that a C or D level guy wouldn't win.

Fury-Wilder III is a heavyweight championship bout that will be remembered and talked about and rewatched for a long time, which makes it a classic.

Frankie. Why you gotta do this?

The third fight was contracted and Wilder and his people enforced the contract. Fury was not free to fight the belt-warmer. And I know you know this.

 

Regarding the contract:

You are trying to rewrite history. You are forgetting (deliberately) that the Fury-Joshua nonsense went back and forth for MONTHS, then
Fury signed a contract with Wilder IN ONE DAY! Yes, Wilder had a contract, but it didn't mean Fury had to fight him BEFORE he fought Joshua. Do I have to insert videos of Eddie Hearn's head exploding while discussing this issue?

OK, then, here you go.

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I see it exactly the same way as l did 5 months ago.
• Fury's conditioning was poor.
•Fury was average.
•Wilder showed heart.
•Wilder was probably at his best.
•Far too much grabbing/spoiling
•lt wasn't a 'great fight'
•The 3rd fight wasn't needed.

 

You're very lucky. The first heavyweight title fight I watched live was Muhammad Ali-Ron Lyle. Fury-Wilder III was much better.

Yes, it will be viewed as a classic. It already is. It had all the Hallmarks of a classic fight. A truly heated rivalry. The WORLD title on the line. Brutal punching. Both guys down a couple times. A clean knockout finish. At times, it looked like both were about to lose at any moment. Fury-Wilder III was a true fight to the finish. That was a fight where two guys laid it all on the line and it was never going to the cards.

Unfortunately, you're going to find out how great it was because most heavyweight title fights (or title fights in general) will not live up to that one.

Guys don't try. Guys quit. Guys fake injuries. Guys are overly cautious and hold back. Some guys don't actually hit hard enough to do any real damage. Judges or officials mess things up. Or the fights are straight up boring as hell because neither really wants to "fight."

If the first heavyweight title fight you watched was Chris Byrd-Davarryl Williamson or John Ruiz-Fres Oquendo or Anthony Joshua-Andy Ruiz II .. you'd have probably moved on by now.

You picked a good one.

 

LOL Yeah, I have my doubts as well.

 

Common sense has arrived at long last.

 

I'm in agreement over Sugar Hill. He's just the nephew of a legend. Never really got what People saw in him.