5 Reasons why Cotto has no chance against Mayweather!

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  1. Poonpuppy

    Poonpuppy Active Member Full Member

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    I think Cotto has a chance to win this fight, but its slim.
     
  2. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're on a ***** thread.......even have a Rican poster who has bought in to the Floyd Express!!!

    Floyd will not just lose but he will find himself belly up!!!
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto can win the fight because Floyd isnt perfect. Cotto is a good fighter and on any night he can beat any fighter in the world from 140 to 160.

    We have no idea how this fight will play out. I know that its hard to envision HOW cotto could win the fight, but it wouldnt be the first time that people went in feeling like one of the fighters had no shot at winning and then they won.
     
  4. mate ur sooo wrong llol!
    ppv
     
  5. Ech110

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  6. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    #3 is the reason why a lot of ppl have claimed he was shot.

    #5 seems to be under the radar right now because of the way Mayweather has fought Mosley and Ortiz.
     
  7. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are clearly a moron. On one thread you say that its a **** fight, and Floyd is a coward for taking on Pacs leftovers, then on this thread you say that Cotto will do fine and suggest that he will win.

    I know deep down your crossing your fingers and hoping will all your might that Cotto some how pulls it off. That way you *******s dont have to face your greatest fear,
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  8. FinalBELL

    FinalBELL Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This would be a huge upset in the eyes of most but not mine. Cotto needs to bring some of his old self in order to give himself a reasonable chance in this fight. Cotto needs to make it rough and not allow Mayweather space to maneuver and counter. If so, Cotto has a chance.
     
  9. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    This. People say he has a decent chance to win but dont give any other reasons other than cotto is "good". They cant explain how he can win. Yeah cotto can box decent against other guys but he isnt going to be able to outbox mayweather. His best chance of winning, is a fluke KO bodyshot. He should be going to the body anyways but that is the only way he could win if he landed a perfect shot and floyds body shutdown for 10 seconds.
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto wont be doing much to the body. That is a counterpunchers dream.

    I say that Cotto has a chance because he is "GOOD" meaning that you dont know what he has planned. Thing is Floyd isnt perfect and he has had off nights, yet it still takes a really good fighter to beat him on his off nights.

    I cant sit here and tell you a game plan that Cotto can come by to beat floyd, many trainers smarter then me about boxing have tried and failed to do so. Im saying that we have seen bigger upsets then this one would be should Cotto pull it off.

    Smart money says that Floyd will break Cotto down and stop him somewhere in the late rounds.
     
  11. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Nobody has no chance.

    1. "Outboxing" is a general term; Cotto has excellent timing off the jab, but has also been shown to have success fighting aggressively and overpowering his opponent. What people call "pure boxing" is not likely to be an option, but it's something he can weave into a game-plan and use in spots to remain unpredictable. Judah was timing Mayweather in the center, DLH was timing Mayweather when pushing him back, and an old Mosley nearly dropped Floyd with a well-timed counter over the top. Floyd is obviously the better pure boxer, but lets not pretend he's unhittable for all 12 rounds.

    2. As you stated, it's speed and angles that trouble Cotto, just not speed itself. Mayweather's timing combined with his speed has always been a great asset, but Cotto will likely be able to see the punches coming in front of him, as Floyd generally fights from a straight-lined angle in front of you. Cotto's crouch is also corrected, and he's not limiting his vision with his guard and exposing his chin by ruining his balance with wide elbows for uppercuts and straight shots down the middle. No Judah or Pacquiao-like punches should be landing on Cotto, and if the do, Cotto's been shown to survive, and it's likely that in throwing such shots, Floyd is exposing himself more than he usually would.

    3. For some reason you're assuming that he's going to use the same single game-plan he used to fight bigger fighters. If you actually watch the fights, you'll see he had no problem controlling the center in a relaxed and tactical fashion against Foreman, who he constantly stalked and pressured behind a jab and well-angled footwork. He was tentative at times against Mayorga's awkward style, but often initiated most exchanges. Against Margarito, despite his defensive game-plan, there were plenty of times Cotto exchanged with him in the pocket, punching fluidly in between his bobbing and weaving, or pushing him back against the ropes and working out of a clinch. If he's strong and willing enough to do that to Margarito, I think he'll be able to come forward against Floyd without the paralyzing fear you seem to be talking about.

    4. Foreman was taller, more mobile, and undefeated; for Cotto to take that fight right after the loss to Pacquiao and win almost every round was impressive. Mayorga came in great shape and is awkward for anyone to fight. Margarito was virtually the same fighter as in the first fight, and the eye closing was just an early finish; Cotto was still dominating, and an argument can only really be made for one or two rounds at the very most. In each fight, he had a size advantage, and in two of them, he had less of an ability to hurt his opponent than they had to hurt him. He's lost maybe 7 rounds across all 3 fights. It's not stellar opposition, but don't exaggerate and say it's all "smoke and mirrors" when Cotto has shown clear tactical improvements.

    5. Most fighters in the biggest challenge of their lives have never faced a fighter of the same caliber before; otherwise, it wouldn't be the biggest fight of their career. If he does his homework and studies Mayweather, he can eliminate the amount of inevitable surprise and unfamiliarity he'll face in the ring that night. Likewise, you could say Mayweather has never faced someone with the exact same dynamic as Cotto (who to me is like the versions of Oscar and Hatton Floyd faced in one, with the added dimension of defensive lateral boxing ability.) Roach also made a good point in that Cuban boxing is largely based around fighting out of a solid base of fundamentals and often employs a technical counter-punching strategy; I'm willing to bet Diaz has fast-handed and mobile fighters that use a variety of guards on call that Cotto can spar with. They won't be Floyd, but then again, none of Floyd's partners will be Cotto.

    My point in writing all of this is that there's no reason for an accomplished fighter like Miguel to be written off just because he's a heavy underdog, especially when write-ups like these completely exaggerate his criticisms and flaws, and ignore the variety of improvements he's made to his boxing. I can understand completely why people pick Mayweather to win as the more versatile, accomplished, and gifted fighter, but styles make fights, and if Cotto comes in physically and mentally prepared to maximize his dimensiosnas a fighter, he can make this fight competitive enough to snatch an unprecedented victory. Stranger things have happened in boxing. Nobody has no chance.
     
  12. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Do you have a reading comprehension???? Or you are just your typical ***** low IQ?


    Did I say Cotto will win?

    I just don't see your *****'s point of view that cotto will be annihilated. I am 1000000 per cent sure that Cotto will still be standing after 12 rounds. If Cotto backpedals, what would Gayweather do? Be aggressive?

    I said if Mosley was looking like he never went to a 12 round fight with Gayweather, i am sure that Cotto will be fine. Fine is not equal to winning - if you get my point.

    And what would your excuse if Cotto will actually do better than Hatton (before the KO)? Because a career 140 pounder actually was respectable against Gayweather, and Cotto has more dimension to his offense and defense than Hatton.
     
  13. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree with points 1,4 and 5. I very much doubt Mayweather will come rushing and jumping in with punches from odd angles like Pac did, that is clearly beyond imagination if one knows how Floyd fights. Definitely doubt that Cotto will not sacrifice himself for this one even after the Margarito beating. Hey, even having won, Floyd was on the verge of falling apart after the swarming Hatton did on him for 9 or 10 rounds.
     
  14. u29236

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    This is not a prime cotto. The cotto that fought mosley, if he got caught he would come back with his own shots. The cotto now if he gets hit he drops back. Mayorga hit cotto with wide looping shot and would drop back. This cotto does not have the timing, the reaction, and is now gun shy. He still has one of the best jabs, but everything else in his prime is gone. I hope cotto ko floyd but it aint happening
     
  15. Bad Boyz

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    Totally agree with the OP.