5 Years from now..Where do you think experts will rank these 4 in order

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by chimba, Oct 21, 2007.


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  1. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac top 10

    EM & MAB top 60

    JMM- If Pac is next then his Career over- Top 120.
     
    PacDbest, Oct 21, 2007
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  2. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are tired of the same **** that I am tired of. I hear all the time about the top 100 and I wonder if you guys acctually know what you are talking about.

    However, I would like to see your list of the top 100. Don't ask me for mine because I don't have one. I want to see how you make your list so I can learn .
     
    Thinman, Oct 21, 2007
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  3. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    What are you talking about...are you well?? This wasnt a thread about my list....there are publications out there who makes the lists... I cant knock those list because these are guys who make a living following boxing professionally. Some of this lists are legit...even with trainers and fighters input

    I can make my own favorite list on who I think is the best..its not far off...from the Ring list per say SRR #1, Armstron, Ali etc etc..

    Whats your point??? Are you insinuating that no lists matter its all about opinions???

    Why not be honest to yourself and tell me instead of beating around the bush like the dumbass that you are that you do not believe PACquiao to be that high and you think the fighter that you like is higher..

    I have some info for you.. Theres alot of list and publications that will come out and you wont like where theyd rank PAC. If you dont think so then say so..But that is the consensus from people who knows boxing...theres nothing I can do about it

    You have your own list in your head keep it there..trust me no one cares about it
     
    chimba, Oct 21, 2007
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  4. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Do it. :good
     
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  5. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Here:rofl

    . Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Henry Armstrong
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Muhammad Ali
    5. Joe Louis
    6. Willie Pep
    7. Sam Langford
    8. Benny Leonard
    9. Roberto Duran
    10. Sandy Saddler
    11. Joe Gans
    12. Ezzard Charles
    13. Archie Moore
    14. Sugar Ray Leonard
    15. Jimmy Wilde
    16. Eder Jofre
    17. Bob Fitzsimmons
    18. Mickey Walker
    19. Jack Johnson
    20. Jack Dempsey
    21. Pernell Whitaker
    22. Barney Ross
    23. Tony Canzoneri
    24. Joe Walcott (Barbados)
    25. Stanley Ketchal
    26. Jimmy McLarnin
    27. Charley Burley
    28. Gene Tunney
    29. Terry McGovern
    30. Roy Jones
    31. George Foreman
    32. Larry Holmes
    33. Ike Williams
    34. Rocky Marciano
    35. Alexis Arguello
    36. Marcel Cerdan
    37. Marvin Hagler
    38. Carlos Monzon
    39. Jose Napoles
    40. Evander Holyfield
    41. Jake LaMotta
    42. Tommy Loughran
    43. Billy Conn
    44. Abe Atell
    45. James J. Jeffries
    46. Emile Griffith
    47. Ruben Olivares
    48. Pascual Perez
    49. Aaron Pryor
    50. Joe Frazier
    51. Johnny Dundee
    52. Kid McCoy
    53. Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
    54. George Dixon
    55. Thomas Hearns
    56. Maxie Rosenbloom
    57. Carlos Zarate
    58. Ricardo Lopez
    59. Battling Nelson
    60. John L. Sullivan
    61. Kid Gavilan
    62. Willie Ritchie
    63. Dick Tiger
    64. Pancho Villa
    65. Carmen Basilio
    66. Packy McFarland
    67. Sonny Liston
    68. Floyd Patterson
    69. Philadelphia Jack O’ Brien
    70. James Corbett
    71. Tony Zale
    72. Bob Foster
    73. Tiger Flowers
    74. Tommy Ryan
    75. Georges Carpentier
    76. Bernard Hopkins
    77. Joe Jeanette
    78. Azumah Nelson
    79. Mike McCallum
    80. Carlos Ortiz
    81. Freddie Welsh
    82. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    83. Jimmy Barry
    84. Salvador Sanchez
    85. Manny Pac
    86. Fighting Harada
    87. Miguel Canto
    88. Manuel Ortiz
    89. Kid Chocolate
    90. Marco Antonio Barrera
    91. Bob Montgomery
    92. Carlos Ortiz
    93. Joe Brown
    94. Khaosai Galaxy
    95. Felix Trinidad
    96. Eusebio Pedroza
    97. Erik Morales
    98. Harold Johnson
    99. Oscar De La Hoya
    100. Mike Tyson
     
    chimba, Oct 21, 2007
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  6. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why did you put Pac at 85? Why not at 83 or 80? You said before that he was top 50? Did you change your mind?
     
    Thinman, Oct 21, 2007
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  7. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Yo you gotta read the posts man..,unless you cant...youre getting all hyped up :rofl :rofl

    ..PAcs 85 because he is the 85th best..why does it bother you?..Im underestimating him by two spots already :rofl :rofl

    I suggest you stop...your Blood pressure rising:rofl
     
    chimba, Oct 21, 2007
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  8. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No. It does not bother me at all. You are not consistent. You said that he was top 50 and now you say that he is top 85? You and your list are a joke. Sorry, but I have to tell you that you are not a boxing fan. Your are a joke. :hi:
     
    Thinman, Oct 21, 2007
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  9. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is what I hate about these lists, it favours old timers so much. Dempsey & Jack Johnson resume wise hasnt achieved anymore than Mike Tyson...yet those guys are consistently top 30 and tyson was just an overrated guy.

    Whitaker, Jones, PBF, Pac, MAB, Morales, Hopkins, Hearns, Hagler, heck even Lewis has definetely achieved more than those guys....yet their rated above them. If you disagree, tell me who those guys have beaten to be ranked above the guys I mentioned? Dont tell me that they were great cos they were revolutionary blah blah, boxing then was a different sport and ALOT more popular so obviously those guys will have alot more impact on the boxing world than the guys I mentioned. Resume wise, they dont hold a candle to some of the guys I mentioned.
     
    dangerousity, Oct 22, 2007
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  10. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where tha hell is Julio Cesar Chavez. And Pac has not achieved more than MAB and Erik Morales. He is lower than they would be. Beating up washed up legends only does so much for your status. At some point you gotta face the young champions like Diaz said. Its time for Pac to stop milking other fighters fame like Morales and Barrera.
     
    saul_ir34, Oct 22, 2007
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  11. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same here, why the **** isn't JCC in that list? And both Morales and Barrera made entire careers that outweight Pacquiao beating them before retirement.
    Such a joke.

    If Pacquiao goes chasing after David Diaz instead of fighting the top guys at his division then he is not worth his p4p ranking.
     
    4Rounder, Oct 22, 2007
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  12. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Pacman top 30
    Barrera top 50
    Morales top 70
    People wont remember Marqueer in 5 years.
     
    the_what, Oct 22, 2007
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  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with kg. Beating the number 1 lightweight would be simply amazing. I mean Juan Diaz is coming off 2 extremely impressive victories, and Pacquiao moving up to beat him, which I think he can, would be simply incredible. Moreso than beating JMM or Guzman, where one can be discredited as past it, and the other as unaccomplished.
     
    PH|LLA, Oct 22, 2007
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  14. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea Pac is so great its hard to believe all he has accomplished. Beat Erik Morales the second fight (even though Morales looked like a skeleton at the weight in not to mention on the downside of his career). Beat him a third time still on his downside. Beat Barrera the first time i have to give him props on that and then beat him in an unecssary rematch. Oh yea drew with JMM and lost to Erik Morales the first time. Wow look at all the top notch guys he beat on their prime(Barrera).
     
    saul_ir34, Oct 22, 2007
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  15. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Yo read!!! IN 5 years what are you ignorant??
     
    chimba, Oct 22, 2007
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