50/50 no options not good enough

Where is this amazing footwork you speak of? Wladimir has much better footwork than David Haye & he will dictate the pace of the fight & the distance at which it's fought at. Wlad has more power, just about the sakme speed & far better skills than David could dream of. Quite honestly I'd think Eddie Chambers beats Haye.

I'd have to rank the chins of Sam Peter, Chris Byrd & Calvin Brock as just a wee bit better than that paper maché chin that Haye's sportin'. If Wlad can crack those chins he can surely crack David's egg.

 

Ruiz & Valuev have the collective boxing skill of Primo Carnera, if that. No real boxing fan was very impressed with wins over Ruiz, Valuev, Bonin or Barrett.

 

It's all good :good Besides, you're a newbie...................





























.................**** off NEWB! It's madatory around these parts to welcome Newbies in this manner.

 

the most obvious and obscene duck by a heavyweight since Bowe avoided Lewis. anyone who doesn't see it is not very bright.

refer from now on to him as hayeweather.

 

50-50 and no rematch is a pure example of slave contract !atsch

 

My irretrievably stupid friend, Wlad offered Valuev unification after the first Haye vs. Wlad fight fell through...remember? Valuev turned him down flat and instead waited for a fight with Haye. Please, learn your ****. Valuev has turned the Klitschko brother down three times now.

 

You're smoking something pretty heavy, or you're just dumb. Valuev has been on the slide for years now. His "win" against a 46- year-old Evander was one of the most disgraceful decisions in recent memory. Here's something people seldom mention: Haye was so sure that Valuev was a weak champ that he paid Ruiz 800K in step-aside money because he felt there was a good chance that the old caveman would lose to a 38-year-old Ruiz. And if that happened, Ruiz would not grant the low-ranked Haye a title shot. Haye is one of the biggest paper champs in history. He's a good fghter, yes. But he got his belt through sly deals, step- aside money, and trash talking. A joke of a champ who has yet to prove himself at heavy.

 

That was not in the contract, Hendo. So please, stop lying. Wlad offered unification to Valuev and Valuev wouldn't even come to the negotiating table. He turned him down flat. Stop pretending that Valuev has been chasing the Klitsckos. He's had more than a few good offers. For god's sake, Vitali offered him 2.1 million last year and he turne it down, even though that was more than he had ever earned.

 

Haye deserves a bigger share of the pie cos Wlad is commercial garbage. He's the consensus most boring HW Champ in history and he has no drawing power at all anywhere in the world. All he has are 40-50k cheap ticket sales that net him no more than 1mn euro and he can't get a PPV deal anywhere in the world.

Without an exciting opponent Wlad is nothing. Haye is marketable on his own.

In the UK Haye generates more than double what Wlad does per fight in Germany. Haye also holds one of the major belts.

If you understand even the simplest of business concepts you would see that Wlad has no leverage to claim a 50-50 split. But then again, you fanatical ****s don't give a **** about facts. All you care about is trying to pretend that Wlad has proven something by beating 9 of the worst bum challengers modern boxing has ever seen.

 

The last guy to knock Wlad out was actually Lamon Brewster, butI guess you don't think he has ability. In terms of losing in their primes, good and great heavies like Joe Louis, Lennox Louis, and George Foreman have all been knocked out in their primes.


RIght now, Haye has nothing but potential. He could do this and he could do that...well, who knows? He certanly isn't getting any better fighting 38-year-old fighters. Does he have a chance, sure. But it gets smaller and smaller with every fight. When Haye was actually in Wlad's head a bit for the first fight, I think he may have had a pretty good shot. But now, Wlad is confident, prepared, and he's been fighting regularly. Haye, by comparison, hasn't fough a good, powerful heavyweight yet.

 

Yes, it is true. He publically complained that Vitali's last offer wasn't big enough....The most pathetic thing about it was that he claimed it wasn't enough because of his large entourage. Honestly, don't you find it funny that Valuev hasn't exercised his rematch clause with Haye. You know why he hasn't done that? Because Haye doesn't pay ****. He paid John Ruiz, his mandatory, 800 thousand pounds for his fight. That's far, far less than the Klitscko pay, which is why Valuev is trying to negotiation with Vitali. :roll:

 

Louis lost to a HOF-er and Foreman lost to the GOAT HW. Lennox was hit by a big shot from a very good fighter and went down. This is not comparable to Wlad. Wlad was not caught by a lucky punch from a good fighter. He was brutally dismantled and dominated THREE TIMES by journeymen.

 

Valuev's people know he has no way of beating Haye and the fight will have much less commercial interest second time around. A fight with Vitali would be much easier for him as this Vitali is not nearly as quick or mobile as Haye and he doesn't hit as hard. A Vitali-Valuev fight will also generate much more money as, even though it won't be competitive, it is less obvious as to exactly how the fight will play out.

 

Again, you're just pretty slow. Haye won a majority decision against Valuev. To assume that he has no way of beating Haye is pure, unadulterated idiocy. He's not taking the fight because Haye doesn't pay ****. That is easy to prove. He paid his mandatory, John Ruiz, 800 K. (It was reported in the Guardian...look it up!) A terrible, lousy payday in spite of the fact that the fight sold 20 K seat, more than Haye had ever sold. How much do you think he'd offer a Valuve? Maybe 700K.

How buy we stop speculating and go with what we know? Haye is fighting Harrison because it's the only fight he can sell.