$500 bet for any Calzaghe fan in here

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Canibus81, Nov 27, 2008.


  1. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Try and actually make a point, coward. Try.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    No question.
     
  3. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't fake ****, he got hit with a legit low blow and it doesn't take that much to hurt somebody with a groin shot dumb ass.(especially in 10th round of a high paced fight) You can even hear the pop from the shot if you really listen. Now as far as him taking a long break, that he did but it wasn't cause he faked it, it was so he could get a point deduction since it wasn't the first time it happened. And Calzaghe still couldn't land any effective punches on him after the low blow.
     
  4. SAS2

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    you obviosuly need a new brain as your current one is confused.

    Hoppy held, head-butted and YES FAKED a low blow in the tenth becasue he had no way of slowing down calzaghe, and he was tiring, quickly. THe low blow in the 10th rd goes down in the annuals of the sprot as one of the most disgraceful acts of poor showmanship by a supposed ATG in the history of the sport. Swallow that pea-brain :hi:
     
  5. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Not a only a complete idiot and jerk, but he's a coward as well... You're not talking about ****. As usual. Never said one ****ing thing that sticks, and all this ***** does is pick and choose what he wants to respond to. I've seen this **** get owned about 40 times in the last month. Hahahaha.....
     
  6. heidegger

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    Calzaghe is not Pavlik though. Hopkins tricks don't work on Joe.
     
  7. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    What are you stupid?? Have you not seen the fight? The low blow was there on instant replay for all the world to see. Hopkins did exaggerate. Keep harping on silly subplots, Calzaghe cum drinker. That way you can avoid the reality that Joe was made to look a complete fool and was given a gift.
     
  8. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Round 1) 10-8 Hopkins
    Round2) 10-9 Hopkins
    Round3) 10-9 Hopkins
    Round4) 10-9 Hopkins
    Round5) 10-9 Hopkins
    Round6) 10-9 Calzaghe(this round could have gone either way but i'm being generous for Joe cause of the combo at the end of the round)
    Round7) 10-9 Hopkins
    Round8) 10-9 Calzaghe
    Round9) 10-9 Calzaghe
    Round10) 10-9 Hopkins
    Round11) 10-9 Calzaghe
    Round12) 10-9 Calzaghe


    Round 9 Hopkins had that round and gave it away towards the end and if you gave the fight a draw and made it even, Calzaghe still loses cause of the knock down.

    So there you go, my round by round view of the fight.
     
  9. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    I said make a point. Don't cry like a ****ing *****.
     
  10. LiamE

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    Congratulation on a pro Hopkins post without being a ****ing imbecile like l Canisuck or his mutual masturbation partner San Rimofail.

    A couple of points though.

    Pummeling a guy while fighting at your own pace while nothing comes back is way less tiring than constanly being under attack. There is no way that Hopkins could get any rest in a fight with Joe, just aint gonna happen. Joe has the footwork, stamina, skill and durability to be on Hopkins all night and fact is Hopkins cannot live with Joe's pace. Whether he could of as a younger man is one thing. Now, not a hope.

    You also seem to gloss over the adjustments issue. During their fight Joe was the one that adjusted and improved from a shakey start, an ability he has shown many times. What gives you the idea that he couldnt do it again if Hopkins comes in with a different plan? And if Hopkins doesnt come in with a different paln what would suggest that what worked last time for joe wouldnt work again? Dont forget that Joe has the tapes to watch too and is every bit as adept as Hopkins at learning from mistakes.

    Given that a rematch would almost certainly be in Wales, without 3 american judges and a ref that allows Hopkins to headbutt, hold and fake low blows all night and that Joe is now obviously more comfortable at the weight than he was and that Joe is very unlikely to give him a nice lead again in the opening rounds I cant see it being Hopkin's night. He's calling Joe out not because he can win but because Joe is the biggest payday out there.
     
  11. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    why would u bet someone 500 in here when u can just go offshore and get 800 back on it? he did not get lucky BHOP stopped fighting on offense...I am prob as neutral as can be with those two..I like both but i would take JC in the rematch
     
  12. Canibus81

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    Yeah you definetly need to get your head examined or maybe you really are Calzaghe areuing with everyone who disagrees with you on who won the fight. Seriusly though if you really believe Joe won almost every round after round 2 you need to go see a doctor. You have a nice day.
     
  13. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he can win but i mostly agree with this post
     
  14. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hahaha, yea that was pretty ridiculous.
     
  15. MrMagic

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    Scoring is indeed about clean, effective punching and Hopkins landed effective punches at a higher percentage, but he did not land more shots than Calzaghe.
    Calzaghe may not have had the majority of his punches land clean and effective on Hopkins chin, but he successfully outworked Hopkins and took the later rounds in the bag with relative ease.

    Let's look at the actual punch stat from the fight:

    Hopkins - Calzaghe
    R1: 4/16 | 7/35
    R2: 8/28 | 13/45
    R3: 10/45 | 23/70
    R4: 7/28 | 16/56
    R5: 10/41 | 16/58
    R6: 12/33 | 19/58
    R7: 12/41 | 24/64
    R8: 15/38 | 22/65
    R9: 13/41 | 25/61
    R10: 14/54 | 23/63
    R11: 11/51 | 20/57
    R12: 11/52 | 24/75

    Now what this actually tells us is that it's a complete myth that Hopkins was slowing down to a stop in the later rounds, but he was EFFECTIVELY outworked by a much fresher Joe Calzaghe.
    This is actual facts that we're observing, and it's clearly evident that Hopkins was getting hit more and more as the later round progressed, he was in fact hit with 40% in a few of these rounds, slaps or not they were obviously having an effect because Hopkins did everything to get a few more seconds of breathing time (faking a low blow...).

    Well it takes two to tango, and Hopkins was not at all looking to press the action, he was reluctant to engage with Calzaghe to convince the judges he was winning the fight.



    Whether you like it or not, whilst maybe landing clean, effective punches he was not nearly doing enough to actually convince the judges that he was winning, and after all.. if he was capable of doing so without taking punishment from Joe Calzaghe he surely would've stepped on the pedal.