59-54, 58-55, 58-55??! WTF were they watching?

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  1. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    GAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's unbelievable. My scorecard...

    Boxer: Pavlik Taylor
    Round: 1 9 10
    2 8 10
    3 10 9
    4 10 9
    5 10 9 * Close
    6 10 9
    7 Win by KO

    This is how I saw the fight.
     
  2. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    Me too, I laugh at HBO and their foul judges and bask in the glory of Pavliks triumph! Boys, I believe HBO has taken a big step to being cured.
     
  3. PeterNielsen70

    PeterNielsen70 Active Member Full Member

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    I scored it exactly like Guido and John Stewart, except for round 1 where I had a draw?

    1. 10-10
    2. 10-8
    3. 9 -10
    4. 9 -10
    5. 10-9
    6. 10-9

    So 2 points in favour of Taylor on my scorecard.
    But when the rounds are even you can easily see very different scorecards. But I think the judges where pretty spot on.

    I'm not a Taylor or a Pavlik fan by the way, so I don't think I'm biased -and I couldn't care less who should win - except the best man.... :bbb
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    When people had Taylor winning, what were they seeing?

    Pavlik was landing the cleaner, harder, more consistent shots for 7 rounds. Not to mention he was setting the pace of the fight and generally the ring general i.e. pinning Taylor on the ropes and in the corner.
     
  5. DoumB

    DoumB HOYA KO1 PRESSCOT Full Member

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    exact same for me.
     
  6. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What doesnt suck is that Taylor fought

    Hopkins W12
    Hopkins W12
    Wright D12
    Ouma W12
    Spinks W12
    Pavlik KO by 7

    How many active fighters have fought that level of opposition in thier last 6 fights.


    He was very close to stopping Pavlik, and he was getting to him sooner than Kelly was getting to Jermaine. IMO I think he gave a good account for himself. He lost to the man with more focus and poise. He took alot of right hands from Pavlik and handled them pretty well.

    I think in the grand scheme of things, We were all treated to a great nite of boxing and both fighters gave us a good fight.


    BTW I had it 57-56 Taylor.
     
  7. AllyT

    AllyT Active Member Full Member

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    I was a little surprised at the scorecards but many of the rounds were close. Judges can be influenced by a knock down in that it makes them concentrate on that boxers work. the fact that Pavilk took time to recover will have contributed to this habit. Pavlik has a very high work rate and I know from the amateurs that fast punched often do not register, particularly with older judges. Taylor was slower and more deliberate and his work is easier to see.
     
  8. Bigcat

    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had Jermaine slightly ahead, but i started to see flaws all the way through where Kelly could exploit gaps in the defence.. Pavlik did exactly what he should do.. Jermaine just was the last man to see it coming. Pavlik is too good a puncher and technician to overlook.
     
  9. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    You know, you're one of the guys I actually respect on this site, but you got it wrong this time.
     
  10. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They were watching what they were told to watch.
    Judges have to make a living too.
    Its a business.
    Taylor just couldnt hold up his end ---- go the distance.
    Too bad.
     
  11. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was furious when I heard that ****. Leddermans daughter is a usually an accurate judge but I was surprised when she had it different from her dad.
     
  12. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah.

    i had it 3-3.

    but 2 of those rds could have gone taylor's way.

    if anyone was winning it was taylor.
     
  13. alex-boxer42

    alex-boxer42 Active Member Full Member

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    It was competitive the whole way, regardles of what your scorecards were. But by the 4 fourth kelly seemed to find his rythm. This is a rythm which is hard to break, which is why I felt he was gaining control from this point, backing taylor up, still geting hit, but sticking to his guns and controlling the pace.
     
  14. ssabripo

    ssabripo Active Member Full Member

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    i guess to me, backing up a guy, teeing off when at the ropes, jabbing more accurately, and controlling the pace of the fight, was more telling than the better counterpunching
     
  15. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Bingo. Sorry HBO, you can't get your post-boy a gift decision when he's lying on the canvas! :-( :lol: