6 reasons why Peter would lose even harder to Wlad today

Exactly. Just how is a new, slower, more out of shape "boxer" in Scam Cheater going to beat Wladimir Klitschko in their second fight? His only chance was to apply constant pressure on Klitschko and try to wear him down. He failed--even with the constant illegal rabbit punches.

So what's Peter going to do? Throw less and time his shots better so Klitschko can see them coming a week before?

Time to put the Oaf to bed.

 

I couldn't agree more! :good

Also, add to the fact that Klitschko is fighting with more confidence now than ever before and that he will be prepared for the inevitable barrage of rabbit punches that Peter throws.

Look at every attribute of the two fighters with the exception of chin and Klitschko is better. He has faster hands and is faster on his feet than Peter. He has better skills than Peter. He has a better straight right hand, jab, and left hook than Peter. Better conditioning by a mile too. And Klitschko has the top trainer in the world in his corner....THIS FIGHT WON'T EVEN BE CLOSE!

 

In case you were not aware, Klitschko already beat Peter once.

 

Wlad still has a extremely weak chin, and still questions his own chin at times, it was quite obvious in the Iggy fight he was afraid of opening up, for fear of being countered. Pressure is the key to beating Wlad, who is not very tough or skillful when his oppenent is opening up on him. Watch how off balance he is when he gets hit, both Brewster and Peter had his legs going all over the place, not to mention Sanders. Wlad is nothing when you take him out of his comfort zone, and he usually melts under the pressure, something a fighter like Peter could easily do to Wlad.

 

we´ll see who learned more from the first fight.

IMO Peter´s adjustment to beeing a better boxer will decrease his chances of winning versus Wladimir Klitschko.

Skillwise there will always be galaxies between the two, Peter´s best chance would be to try to pressure Wlad even harder this time, and I can´t see that without Peter eating jabs all night.

It could very well be a more agressive fight from both fighters this time, since both fighters has the last fight in mind. But it could also be a more tentative fight, with Peter trying to pick his punches more.

If Peter tries to box Klitschko he stands second to no chance at all IMO, but if the fight is more agressive than the last...his chance is as big as the last time...the punchers chance that always is there and especially if you´re that hard of a hitter.

This is the fight I want most of all right now...but the bad news is that we´ll probably will have to wait quite some time. God knows what might happen in the scene until then.

 

Marquito I agree that Sam would be making a big mistake by trying to be cute with Waldo.

He has to press. There is no other way. Something Ibragimov should have known prior to his fight was that Waldo, if left alone, will sit back and jab his way to a decision taking very few chances. The next guy who fights him cannot make that same mistake. They all HAVE to press him.

I think what Sam showed against Maskaev is that he is ready to avoid Waldo's best work. He showed against Maskaev that he can use his right guard to block the left hook. And also that being 6'1", he can get under alot of shots to get close enough to land his own right hand. He's gonna force Waldo to either fight inside or tie up. He can do all of these things moving forward. A) holding his right guard high and B) bobbing under the jab and right hand. Waldo can't do anything else. He doesn't throw to the body, he rarely ever uses uppercuts anymore.

As stated by me numerous times in the past, that's gonna be Waldo's testing ground. He's either gonna be penalized heavily for not fighting inside, or he's gonna get away with it and likely win another UD.

 

All points you made are valid.

It would absolutely add more excitement to the fight if Peter can show a better defence versus Klitschko that in all honesty is a bit faster than both Peter and Oleg.

Somehow I think there will be less holding and less punching behind the head, which sometimes is a result of eachother.

Good or bad for Wladimir, I think his confidence is bigger this time which might make him be more agressive. I think he trusts his and his teams ability to learn from fights, and adjust. It means he could try to take Peter out this time, which could make easier for Peter to score, and a better fight we would get. Could play out way different, but it´s a thought. Somewhere deep down Klitschko knows that he must do more than he did versus Ibragimov...so perhaps it makes way for a better fight in the rematch.

 

Well the one thing that stands out in my head is the comment Kellerman made on HBO the other night. About how European fighters are a different kind of professional where they don't hold the KO in such a high regard. For them it's about winning the fight and if it means just winning on the jab then that's what they will do.

Looking at Waldo you don't have to figure out much. He's a big guy with decent speed for his size. If he is just satisfied with jabbing and not doing anything else then it's up to you to make the fight. Ibragimov was kinda pitiful in the post-fight by saying he was hoping Waldo would commit more. You can't hope for anything at that level. It's really up to you to make it happen.

Sam, as green as he was, really made Waldo fight in the first contest. And I do think he needs to be a little faster. Maybe not as much as you do but a little bit. He needs to be able to get under that jab and slip the right hands. The left hook won't be near as damaging if he holds his right guard high. Which lately he has done better and better.

In all fairness this talk about him being plodding and slow is all connected to him learning how to be concerned for his well being in the ring. He still has the Sam Peter aggression but it comes behind a jab now and moving forward cautiously. Which if you ask me is leagues better than the guy who would headhunt with his chin way up in the air and his feet not under him. I was very impressed with how he handled Maskaev and how he was beating Maskaev at his own game which is counterpunching.

 

I think the odds of Wlad winning the rematch are quite high. Peter has a puncher´s chance and that´s pretty much it I´d say. Peter is as good an opponent for Wlad as any though because he´s a champion and has knocked him down before (with questionable punches). Only the winner of Valuev-Chagaev could be considered a better opponent at this point. Povetkin and Haye could be in the future but now they need more fights.

 

I disagree. The fight against unbeaten Sultan was like a brilliant soccer match with top midfield defense that hardly shows any shots at the goal (because noone can get through the midfield).

This is boring for the soccer fan, but can be entertaining for trainers and experts.

I watched the fight several times and aside from the lack of attacks Klitschko showed incredible skills and made unbeaten WBO champ Sultan look like a bitchy girl.

The reason why the fight went as it went was that Sultan had only 1 strategy: Luring Klitschko in by leaning back. Remember that also Briggs and Holyfield threw very little at this guy, so we could assume that it was Sultan's fault.

I rewatched the fight several times because there is something strange about it like the fights in the movie Equilibrium. The clashes of defense systems.

However I know that this might sound a little off and I don't expect anyone to share my views, especially since same fights on different TV channels may look completely different. You have the full right to consider this fight simply BORING.

 

Peter showed a granite chin in the vit fight...I think the reason for the McCline fight was a product of a ruptured eardrum

 

nice to see ur back

oh nevermind look at the date

:yep

 

I agree. He's got an A chin if nothing else.

BTW, CHEF sent me the signed gloves. 1 for me and my dad. They are awesome. How can anyone not be a fan of Wlad? The guy cares about his fans :happy

You think your boy Sam Peter would do that for you?

...Maybe for a chicken dinner...WOOT WOOT :rofl:yep:happy:happy

 

I can' disagree with any of the original post. Well said and correct on all points.

But you could see PEter's abs when he fought Vitali, so that's one small point that was missed.

 

good post...good points :good