6'0 209lb Chambers beating 6'7 253lb Dimitrenko proves bigger is not better

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Jul 6, 2009.


  1. Muchmoore

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    Chambers skills are on an entire other level than Dimitrenko. Size itself isn't everything, but when you have equal skills the bigger man has the advantage.

    The Bowe-Holy trilogy tells us more than what Fat Eddie-Dimitrenko does :lol:
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Bingo.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

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    I think a speedy Chambers if he stays fit could be a problem for Vitali. Chambers has speed and showed power in the Sasha fight...he must be fit and fight the right fight but he has a chance if he stays light and in condition.
     
  4. Russell

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    Yes it proves absolutely everything conclusively of god lets latch onto it like a barnacle prrrrraise small heavyweights.
     
  5. Mendoza

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    Vitlai has never had a problem with fast fighters. Hide had fast hands. Sanders had fast hands. Johnson had fast hands. Donald had fast hands. Byrd had fast hands. Gomez was pretty quick too.

    My point is Chambers does not have the best hand speed on this list and collectively these fast handed fighters won a combined six rounds in six fights. Or if you prefer each man won on average 1 round in the fight.

    Vitali doesn't fight like Wlad. He'll trade or counter, and is far more agressive. Besdies, most of these speed guys were much longer and taller than Chambers is.

    Dimitrenko is not a super dominant boxer on the cards. Never has been, probably never will be. The best two boxers Dimitrenko fought prior to Chambers were Bean and Krasniqui. Dimitrenko was close to even with Bean, and likely behind vs an old Krasniqui. I don't want to rain on Chambers parade but some folks here are going overboard.
     
  6. Seamus

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    It proves that Dimitrenko was a sportsman and not a fighter, which is the same opinion I had of him 2 years ago.

    Let's see Fast Eddie against Boytsov or against Povetikin (oh, we saw him get drubbed against the latter)...
     
  7. Bummy Davis

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    I am not sold on Chambers but I was impressed by the way he got himself in condition for this fight and lost 15 lbs, it improved on his stamina and power but more important the ability to land and move out. I was impressed with the way he easily caught Povetkin but fizzled to Povetkin's work rate. In the 2nd rd Chambers landed several right hands, had he been in better shape at the time who knows. I think Vitali beats him but I am very interested to see a fit Chambers vs one of the Klitschko's...should make a good fight and this kid has been fighting anyone he can.
     
  8. mcvey

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    What it proves to me is ,half these heavyweights coming in at 230 plus lbs could lose 25+ lbs of fat .
     
  9. DamonD

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    I'm pleased to hear that Chambers has recognised the importance of being in top shape, even if that does mean you're giving up a weight advantage. Sometimes too many heavyweights seem to want a certain mark as they feel that'll be right for them, or if not fat then they pump themselves up with extra unnecessary muscle to do the same.

    Chambers had the sense to turn up in better shape and has now seen the benefits too. It would sadly be too much to expect others to do the same but it's good for him, he's just the kind of fighter that benefits from better speed and stamina after all.
     
  10. Curtis Lowe

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    Here is possibly another, possibly better example, Spinks over Cooney. Of course Cooney was on the down side of his short career and his head wasn't screwed on right for that fight, still with the size differential, Spinks really beat the **** out of him.
     
  11. janitor

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    What sort of weight do you think Povetkin could come in at if he took after Fast Eddies example.
     
  12. diamondDave

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    I have to respectfully disagree. Dimitrenko is not a top heavyweight, the game has progressed and fighters the size of Jerry Quarry and Eddie Chambers are still not big enough to take out the elite of the heavyweight division today.

    Look at Tye Fields, he was beat by an average sized heavyweight in Fields. It just doesn't mean much unless we are talking about Champions they are beating.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    No, I don't necessarily agree. You can't make the blanket statement that just because ONE 209 Lb man had success against ONE particular man of above average size, that it " proves great heavys of the past " would have had success in general against today's heavys.

    You simply can't use singular isolated incidents to make broad generalizations.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    Solid post.
     
  15. PolishPummler

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    Garbage thread.

    Dimitrenko was a nobody.