6'0 209lb Chambers beating 6'7 253lb Dimitrenko proves bigger is not better

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  1. Flea Man

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    :lol::good
     
  2. Muchmoore

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    It means what I said. When a big guy with a good jab, defense etc. fights a little guy with a good jab, defense etc. the big guy will likely win.

    Watch Bowe-Holyfield for a good example of what I mean. Holyfield was probably the more skilled fighter and only was at a real disadvantage in terms of size, and that's all it needed.

    I'm not saying an average super heavyweight beats anyone under 220, I'm saying a great fighter that weighs 230 or more has a big advantage against someone that's light. Guys like Lewis, Bowe, the Klitschkos are all huge and unlike giants of the past who were fat and/or didn't have much skill, these guys are good/great boxers.
     
  3. Mendoza

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    Spot on. But the truth is threatens how gerat smaller fighters would do vs these new world heavyweights....which is why people jump on Chambers beating a a fighter who will never beat anyone in the top ten.
     
  4. Bummy Davis

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    I dont know he beat Sam Peter who alot of posters were raving about, he also beat Brock and Dimentrenko KO'd Krasnicki, Chambers was also off to a good start vs povetkin but tired quickly because of the extra weight. What I got out of the Sasha fight was he dropped 15lbs from the Peter fight and was faster, had much more stamina and dropped Sasha 2 times and almost stopped him late. I would be interested seeing this new version in a rematch with Povetken or to match anyone of the Klitschko's. Chambers has beaten top 10 contenders, something I can not say about Haye who has not fought a heavyweight outside the top 30. What I do like is Chambers getting in shape and not looking to match the big guys with weight but to use his fitness, speed and renewed stamina to match the big guys. Sasha will be back....Chambers is now # 1 CONTENDER...CAN HE TAKE IT TO THE TITLE AND WIN...ITS A TALL ORDER BUT AT LEAST HE got to the top...
     
  5. Seamus

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    I don't see how he ranks as a contender above Povetkin, who beat him handily in my opinion.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

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    Povetkin has had 2 fights since there fight vs top 50 heavys Eddie has beaten Peter,and Dementrenko top 10 and Rafael Butler, Castillo. and Sisse..Povetkin has not looked good against unproven opponents. I like Povetkin but he needs work. I think he has some good strngths but seems content with a title shot and not a win.
     
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  8. Bummy Davis

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    Dimentrenko will be back...needs to learn...he went to school.....Chambers IMO beats Areola I donr know about Vlad or Vitali but he is best American...What kind of face is Povetkins promoter making
     
  9. Seamus

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    Head to head the fight wasn't even that close. I had Alex winning going away. Dimetrenko is garbage. I, and many others, have been saying so for a couple years. Is Sasha your new crusade so that Chamber's worth can be inflated? I give Eddie credit. He didn't fade away or eat himself out of the division. He bounced back, took some good fights and won them. But he isn't that Western Savior for which the Yanks are so desperate. He just isn't that good.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    My Crusade...I do not like any of the U.S. fighters right now but Chambers showed dedication...I am not looking for a western savior I just enjoy a fight between fighters that train. I dont think Sasha is bad, just did not know how to deal with Chambers. As far as Povetkin he got shook early against Chambers ( I was rooting for Alex P.) Alex work rate won the fight for him and Chambers faded but the judges did not think it was one-sided and I did not either. I dont like it when people talk out of there ass..you are one of them...My crusade
     
  11. Seamus

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    119-109, 116-112, 117-111

    The fight wasn't that close and the judges did not think it to be close.

    talk out your own ass.
     
  12. Bummy Davis

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    119--109 was a joke... 116-112- 117-111 not so bad in GERMANY for Chambers....I thought Alex won clear but Chambers landed some clean shots early ....Where you said I was looking for an American savior thats where you were talking out of your ass. I root for good fighter not by location or country. This is what I said

    I dont like it when people talk out of there ass..you are one of them...My crusade
     
  13. Mendoza

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    I thought the best score was 116-112 for Povetkin. Chambers started fast, but he could not ward off a more aggressive and better conditioned Povetkin.

    Povektin's team blamed his mediocre performance on illness during his training camp. Having said that, Chambers is not a fluke. I'd say he's a solid top ten guy. We have seen Chambers vs Povetkin, Peter, and Dimitrenko.

    I still have not seen Chambers vs Dimitrenko, but my hunch is Dimitrenko was too soft, and gave Chambers confidence to tee off on him.

    Chambers seems to be more defensive vs Povetkin, and dared not to risk much vs Peter. What does this mean? I think Chambers will be gun shy vs fighters who can either punch hard or show sustained aggression.
     
  14. TheGreatA

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    Povetkin-Chambers punch statistics:
    • Total Punches Landed / Thrown
    • Round 1
    • Povetkin 13/57 23%
    • Chambers 18/39 46%
    • Round 2
    • Povetkin 11/65 17%
    • Chambers 15/50 30%
    • Round 3
    • Povetkin 15/80 19%
    • Chambers 27/50 54 %
    • Round 4
    • Povetkin 15/77 19%
    • Chambers 22/32 69 %
    • Round 5
    • Povetkin 8/69 12 %
    • Chambers 23/41 56 %
    • Round 6
    • Povetkin 12/83 14%
    • Chambers 17/31 55%
    • Round 7
    • Povetkin 23/89 26%
    • Chambers 13/23 57%
    • Round 8
    • Povetkin 22/94 23 %
    • Chambers 21/35 60 %
    • Round 9
    • Povetkin 17/75 23 %
    • Chambers 18/41 44 %
    • Round 10
    • Povetkin 19/71 27 %
    • Chambers 12/25 48%
    • Round 11
    • Povetkin 27/89 30 %
    • Chambers 5/15 33%
    • Round 12
    • Povetkin 19/80 24 %
    • Chambers 6/16 38%

    • Final PunchStat Report
    • Punches Landed / Thrown
    • Povetkin
    • Total Punches
    • 201 / 929 22%
    • Jabs
    • 57 / 416 14%

    • [*]Power Punches

    • 144 / 513 28%
    • Chambers
    • Total Punches
    • 197 / 398 49%
    • Jabs
    • 61 / 174 35%
    • Power Punches
    • 136 / 224 61%
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Is there a free punch stats report on line? I must say Povetkin was very active. 89 punches in round 11, and 80 punches in round 12 are very impressive.