60-40 in favor of Pac problem solved

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  1. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    If the idea is for Pacquiao to prove his innocence (which is a ridiculous notion btw) how would random urine tests throughout training camp and a post fight blood test not suffice?
     
    Beenie, Dec 23, 2009
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    Please don't cherry pick my post and throw out red herrings instead of addressing my point. Arum claims that they don't want a blood test within 30 days of the fight because Pac feels it will weaken him . This is obviously bull**** as Pacquiao was blood tested less than 30 days before the Hatton fight. Allegedly there are things the blood tests can pickup that a urine test can't. I'm not an expert on this, I'm repeating what I've been told and read. Pacquiao is not against blood testing. Pacquaio was blood tested within 30 days of a recent fight and didn't seem to be affected at all. Given all of this, what good reason does Pacquiao have for not being blood tested within 30 days of the fight? He has numerous tats so we know he's not afraid of needles. He claims he's willing to be blood tested, and he has been blood tested within 30 days of a fight less than a year ago. There is no good reason for him to ask for "random" testing to be done within very specific time frames.
     
    BigReg, Dec 23, 2009
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  3. Beenie

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    Your missing the greater point.

    Mayweather is insisting on these drug tests because he wishes to ensure that their is a level playing field. Pacquiao has obliged him by agreeing to subject himself to strenuous testing which included blood testing and random urine testing. So a compromise has been met by team Pacquiao; one in which seems to be sufficient enough to conclude whether of not Pac is in fact using PED's.

    If the testing that Pacquiao has agreed to is medically sufficient to provide an accurate analyst on whether or not he's doping then what does it matter if it fails to oblige the exact regimen that team Mayweather is suggesting?
     
    Beenie, Dec 23, 2009
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    Because his reasoning is bull****. Anytime someone gives you a bull**** reasoning for something, you need to be suspicious. If he doesn't want to be tested within 30 days of the fight, then he needs to come up with an acceptable answer. Claiming it will mentally affect him is obviously a lie as he was blood tested within 30 days of the Hatton fight. Why the hell would they give in to Pacquiao when he's lying to them? And according to the USADA, it's not sufficient to have these random tests if Pacquaiao has a 30 day window in which not to be tested. Now Roach says he just doesn't want Pac to be tested within 48 hrs. of the fight. That seems reasonable. However, this nonsense that Arum is spewing about only doing bloodtesting 3 1/2 months before the fight and after the fight is not going to fly.
     
    BigReg, Dec 23, 2009
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  5. Beenie

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    The HIV point you previously made was valid one but it seems to me that he agreed to take the test because it was mandatory. Let's not lose sight that the tests that team Mayweather are insisting upon isn't sanctioned, regulated, or irrelevant in any way to the NSAC. If Pac doesn't need to prove himself to the people who are controlling the sport in this particular case then he has every right not to subject himself to a 3rd party standard.

    I can only imagine that that would be his primary reasoning to not willingly submitting himself to the demand.

    He obviously is willing to compromise which is a testament to his eagerness to make this fight happen.
     
    Beenie, Dec 23, 2009
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    It doesn't matter. He never complained, he never asked for the date to be moved, and it didn't affect his performance. Clearly he can function if he's blood tested within 30 days of the fight. Now Arum is going around lying some more by claiming that the USADA could blood test the day of the fight. That's a lie. They could test up to 24rs. before the fight but not the night of the fight. Why should I listen to Pac's side when they keep lying and changing their story. Manny has no aversion to needles or blood testing. His team is doing him no good by continuing to lie? How the hell does this guy have the mental fortitude to perform at the level he does and then claim he can't handle a blood test unless it's at least 30 days before the fight? Now Arum wants them to use the same people that test NFL players? Has anyone seen the guys that are in the NFL? Damn near all of those guys are on something. Anyway, this will all get worked out one way or another. It's become a circus though.
     
    BigReg, Dec 23, 2009
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  7. Beenie

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    All that matters is that both fighters are clean and can be proven to be clean and I have confidence that an agreement can and will be met to satisfy this demand. :smoke
     
    Beenie, Dec 23, 2009
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