'65 Dick Tiger vs '87 Sugar Ray Leonard

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by red cobra, Mar 22, 2011.


  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,537
    Jul 28, 2004
    I don't know if it's been done to death already, but nevertheless, who win...the Dick Tiger of 1965..who whipped Rubin Carter and Joey Giardello vs the SRL of the Hagler fight. A 15 rounder of course.
     
    red cobra, Mar 22, 2011
    red cobra, Mar 22, 2011
    #1
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    19,229
    257
    Oct 22, 2009
    Tiger. Too big. Too strong. Toog good. At least for that version of Leonard. His shoe-shining won´t win him this one.
     
    bodhi, Mar 22, 2011
    bodhi, Mar 22, 2011
    #2
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,537
    Jul 28, 2004
    I agree. Tiger, in '65 was way too strong...too purposeful for Leonard. Dick would have ground out a clear decision over Ray.
     
    red cobra, Mar 22, 2011
    red cobra, Mar 22, 2011
    #3
  4. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,921
    77
    Oct 1, 2006
    Dick Tiger too big and strong for Ray. Leonard fights to survive.
     
    laxpdx, Mar 22, 2011
    laxpdx, Mar 22, 2011
    #4
  5. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,386
    9,312
    Jul 15, 2008
    Ray Leonard was way to smart to ever make this bout ... lovre Ray but past his own prime, out of his weight against a prime Tiger ... Ray fights for his life to go distance ..
     
    he grant, Mar 22, 2011
    he grant, Mar 22, 2011
    #5
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    22,454
    4,889
    Aug 19, 2010
    Tiger wasn´t more stronger than Hagler in my view....
    Hagler had underrated power, and Ray fought a great fight against him, and I can see the same thing happening, but Tiger wasn´t so good defensively as Hagler…….
    Ray by UD in my opinion
     
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Mar 22, 2011
    Vic-JofreBRASIL, Mar 22, 2011
    #6
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    400
    Jun 14, 2006
    Subjecting '87 Leonard to fantasy match-ups against great Middleweights is kinda cruel.
     
    Addie, Mar 22, 2011
    Addie, Mar 22, 2011
    #7
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,080
    8,468
    Jul 17, 2009
    As a middleweight,leonard had one golden moment. With a past it Hagler. Tiger would maul Ray in this one.
     
    Stevie G, Mar 23, 2011
    Stevie G, Mar 23, 2011
    #8
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    42,723
    264
    Jul 22, 2004
    Leonard easy, Tiger's feet are way too slow in this 1. Oh but, Yes beating Hagler maybe the best MW ever is a piece of **** but going in against Dick Tiger he'll be way out of his depth :dead
     
    PowerPuncher, Mar 23, 2011
    PowerPuncher, Mar 23, 2011
    #9
  10. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

    34,829
    17,929
    Jul 29, 2004
    You are turning into your old self PP...I dont like it.
     
    WhataRock, Mar 23, 2011
    WhataRock, Mar 23, 2011
    #10
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

    42,502
    400
    Jun 14, 2006
    You obviously haven't heard, Hagler was reduced to toxic waste by '87. He was a shot item. All Ray had to do was show up and throw some flurries that didn't even land and he was awarded the decision, not because he won legitimately, but because he was loved by everyone. He was the poster boy, effectively.
     
    Addie, Mar 23, 2011
    Addie, Mar 23, 2011
    #11
  12. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

    25,386
    9,312
    Jul 15, 2008
    You're comparing him to a semi-shot Hagler ,,, we're talking about a prime Tiger ...
     
    he grant, Mar 24, 2011
    he grant, Mar 24, 2011
    #12
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,537
    Jul 28, 2004
    Tiger was probably THE strongest middleweight..not as great as Hagler, but yes he was stronger. He was strong enough to go up to lightheavy and be an immovable object for Jose Torres..a legit 175 pounder. It took a stick of dynamite from Bob foster to shut the old Tiger down. Of all his opponents however, it's Emile Griffith that truly approached him in terms of strength..kinda scary about Griffith, but it's truly a feather in his cap in that he dealt rather well with Tiger.
     
    red cobra, Mar 24, 2011
    red cobra, Mar 24, 2011
    #13
  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,677
    2,556
    Oct 18, 2004
    It's also scary about Griffith in other ways also:ahhhh:bolt!!!
     
    Titan1, Mar 30, 2011
    Titan1, Mar 30, 2011
    #14
  15. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,510
    7
    Mar 25, 2010
    This fight would not have happened. Ray survives the 15 rds and is able to steal some rds but takes a good old fashioned ass whoopin'.
     
    Liechhardt, Mar 31, 2011
    Liechhardt, Mar 31, 2011
    #15