'67 Ali versus '74 Foreman

1967 Ali would have boxed George stupid. And in his peak years ( 1966/67 ) he had a KO punch. George couldn't have cut off the ring because Muhammad would have had spinned right and left just like in the Cleveland Williams's fight.
Ali by KO 6

 

Ali running at 85%.

 

Same thing happens. The round might be different.

 

If Foreman couldn't KO an older Ali who laid on the ropes and was there to be hit how in the hell is he going to catch a prime Ali who would be on his toes all night long? If the '74 version of Ali was bouncing right hand leads of Foreman's skull at will just imagine what an even faster late '60's Ali would do to him. George would look like he was fighting under water for chrissakes!

 

Ali made much faster and more technically sound fighters than GF miss. Foreman would look silly trying to land on Ali with those obscenely wide, arcing shots. He would counter George to death. Foreman could never get set with those jabs and combos caroming off his chin every few seconds. Between that and the scores of missed shots, Foreman would get increasingly frustrated and tired. And any punch GF got lucky enough to land Ali could take.

Ali by TKO within 10.

 

His approach may be different. But remember we're also going to be looking at a faster, busier Ali.

 

Without dehydration, severe heat, intentionally loosened ropes with a plan to exploit them, life threats and possibly drugging/poisoning any version of Ali would have lost to Foreman. It might have taken him more time than with Frazier and Norton, but like he proved vs Lyle, Foreman could overcome adversity and Ali would not even be that hard for him.

 

If the 32 year old Ali was hard for Foreman to land many clean blows on,the 1967 version would be even better at that.

 

STILL MAD ABOUT ME CALLING YOU OUT ON YOUR LACK OF BOXING KNOWLEDGE, LIKE THIS?:

Re: Sonny Liston and George Foreman common oppenents. Quote:
Originally Posted by heavy_handss

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and it is for the other ******( OF COURSE THAT LISTON WEIGHED 208-212 POUNDS IN HIS PRIME,

That isn't what you said. You said he had "several fights where he weighed in at 208 pounds". Which is a lie.

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still wepner lasted 3 with a green foreman and lasted 9 with liston

I thought you said he lasted until the 11th? Changing your story again? We shall just hope that when your head is finished turning that your face is to the front again. Get your facts straight.

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(just stopped by cuts) proves clearly that foreman did hit harder) dumb****

BOTH were stopped on cuts, amigo. Again, go do a little research. Foreman-Wepner was stopped on a little 4-5 stitch cut over his eye. They stopped Liston-Wepner on cuts that required 72 stitches to close, plus he suffered a broken nose and a cracked left cheekbone. MUCH more damage than George did to him. So all it "proves" is that Wepner had a much nicer referee in the Foreman fight than he did in the Liston fight.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your feelings. You never do. That's why you aren't taken very seriously on these boards and why I suggested you go find a message board that's more on your level.

 

That just about sums it up. How anyone believes the robotic, slower than a turtle Foreman gets anywhere near a pre exile Ali is mind boggling. In fact I would favour Ali to not even bother with the jab and hit Foreman with a minimum 30 right hand leads per round just to humiliate him.

 

sonny liston weighed even
203. For the fight with marshal, you are a ridiculous poster and the
Most funny thing is that maybe you think you know a single thing that i did not know BEFORE, you are a biased clown, a poor frustrated nobody

 

A "poor frustrated nobody" who knew, unlike you, that Liston never weighed 208 as you claimed. Or that the Wepner-Liston fight didn't go 11 rounds as you claimed.

You can't even get the most basic facts straight and you despise people who call you on it. It's that simple. So why are you even trying to debate? It makes you look silly. And you definitely are in no position to be calling any poster "ridiculous". Not even knowing how long Liston-Wepner went makes nobody but you look "ridiculous". So please take your juvenile insults and post elsewhere. The General forum is for the trash talkers. You'll fit in perfectly there.

 

You repeating like a parrot about that i was wrong because i said that he lasted 2 rounds less, it has nothing TO do with IF i know more or less about boxing, it is simply a mistake OF Memory, i have TO many things in my head, uou said that liston never weighed 208 little looney toon, OF course that he did, he weighed once even 203, you are a **** poster and the most important thing, you never did touch a glove OF boxing in your pathetic life OF nerd, now i have not more time for you simpleton, geta life