7 days blood cutoff w/ unlimited urine and immediate blood test after fight!

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  1. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Its fair because these fighters are the ones going in their and taking punishment, if you arent entitled to a drug test after you have to go through that, and countless hours of preperation then you need to follow a new sport or become a fan boy of another sporting hero, maybe not even sporting hero, why not ****** beiber.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

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    well if that's the case, then he should of petitioned the commissions (NSAC) to modify their drug testing to suit his (and other boxers needs). i'm sure he out there doing this now and extending his influence as one of boxing's top stars towards the commissions. well, it's been 14 months now since he first proposed to clean the sport. i'm sure he is not too busy because he is on vacation now and has no urge in fighting so he be focusing on these changes to clean the sport. so how was his campaign for change going now, any news?
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

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    yes it's fair to demand a drug test if you feel that you need an extra protection like floyd feels now. so do you think it is also fair that there would be unlimited urine test, random blood test until 7 days cut-off where no blood test would occur but will have a blood test immediately after the fight?
     
  4. Anima

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    No news, Simply because the drug test were basically an excuse.
    Believe me with Mayweather's mouth, Getting this in public would be easy.
    Again, prove it scientifically to the commission and then we can start talking about additional tests, but no petitions nor talks are starting.

    All are hoax, "Oh you gotta take the test because theres these Evolved substances that only takes hours to clear your system" and "because he(so called expert) said that they exist" but when it comes to proving it scientifically they are nowhere to be found.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    well if floyd really wants the fight, he should have requested NSAC to change their drug testing procedures. that way, pac has no choice but to take the commission's test that is the commission's standard and corner pacquiao into a fight.

    but since floyd has no interest in this fight, he might as well let the status quo, even if we know that pac has agreed to do the test ( or at least with a 7 day cut-off), and enjoy his vacation.
     
  6. spud1

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    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Simply put, no.

    I say this because certain drugs arenot detectable via urine testing.
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    ok now we are getting somewhere. so you think that the 14 days cut-off that was proposed by floyd was not also a fair proposal in the first place?
     
  9. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    How can you prove them when the adequate testing to find these substances is waved off and those test which need to be subjegated to partcipitants are no where to be seen.
     
  10. Anima

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    Tell Floyd to prove it to the commission since Team pac said that they'll do whatever the commission wants them to do. (This has been stated SINCE THE BEGINNING).

    So It's been a year, Cleaning up the sport my ass. :-(
     
  11. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    :lol:

    Tell me about it, finally catching on son.:rofl

    The 14 days cut off was fair for both fighters.

    But let me ask this.

    If another fighter was in negotiations with you, and you go on to run after another fighter mid way through the negotiations after you were being generous in your own mind.

    Areyou still going to give him a faiur deal.

    he was even offerd 50/50 but still bolted.
     
  12. Anima

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    As I said prove it scientifically to the commission, They were the ones to bring the illegal substances up. It's their job to prove it or back it up scientifically. Waved off you say? Believe me when they are really into cleaning up the sport they would make this issue in public and lay all the evidences in front of the commission. It's been almost a year, not even something close to this scenario has been done.

    Up until now, they still can't prove it. We all know that once they proved it in public, the commission would have no choice but to change the standard tests and adapt.

    Why can't they prove it? Is the testing system really incompetent? Does the substances they mention really exist?

    I'm simply implying that If they were really onto cleaning up the sport, They would go to the commission and prove it. Not slander people, Accusing and proving are to different things.

    Let go off all the angles of the Pac-May drama and focus onto this.
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

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    ok spud calm down. so this is your opinion:

    no cut-off is fair.
    7 days cut-off is not fair.
    14 days cut-off is fair.

    so what is the difference between the 14 days cut-off and the 7 days cut-off that one is fair and the other is not fair. wasn't 7 days more strictier than 14 days? please explain your opinion on this matter why all of a sudden, 7 days cut-off is not a fair proposal anymore? if 7 days without blood test cannot detect those "certain drugs", can the 14 days cut-off detect those "certain drugs" you are saying?

    did your opinion change because floyd suddenly change his stance? are your opinion somehow was affected by floyd's action? my guess is you have a problem admitting your own honest opinion just because you will make floyd look bad doing so.
     
  14. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    14 day was ok initially.

    things have changed sincw then because of certain occurencies.
     
  15. Anima

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    You shouldn't have replied :-(