7 Questions to Klitschko Fans

Ok so you can read David Hayes mind...In the morning he wanted to fight Wlad in Germany in the afternoon he never, you will go to any length to defend Wlad its unbelievable.

Are you going to ignore the previous post

 

Did I say I could read Haye's mind? No. In fact, I actually said I couldn't read his mind. I said it was all speculation.
Yes, fighters do change their mind about things, Haye could have done that, he's
certainly done it before (saying yes to Vitali and then going to Valuev for example).

 

I haven't read a source that said May or June would have been okay for the UK and also okay with TV rights. That could be true, but I haven't read that.

Let's assume it is true. Like I said before, just because Wlad said he would fight anywhere, that doesn't mean that going into negotiations he doesn't try to get the location he would like best. Those are two different things.

 

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Its quite funny that you seem to know allot about everything else, but anything that puts Wlad in a bad spot you seem to have not read.

Just say you had read that about the dates in England avaliable in May/June, what would you think then?

There is no problem with Wlad preferring Germany, as with Haye preferring England. But Wlad DEMANDED Germany after saying he would fight Haye anywhere just to get him in the ring, Wanting and Demanding is a different thing.( i believe Wlad has the right to fight in Germany, but im only going of what Wlad said, Ill fight him anywhere just to get him in the ring, A blantent lie)

 

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1) Wlad should have offered Haye the fight imho. I hope he did first but I haven't heard that so assume he did not which I am not happy with.

2) It could have been since most Brits don't know the Klitchko's so the fight with Chisora could have showcased Wladimir to the UK public who don't even know he exists and used indirectly as a means to promote the fight with Haye.

3) Depends on money but if it was equal income generated no. He should have taken it with strict stipulations on judges and ref then promised Chisora a fight afterwards.

4) They only had a few days to finish negotiating with Haye before Wlad had to fight Chisora as per his contract with him. Unless Haye signed the contract with him he had no choice at that moment - he did leave it to the last day before signing.

5) Haye likes long rests between fights the agreement means he is willing to fight but he wa not being realistic with the timeframes. He may wanty the fight now but fighting once every ten months isn't healthy for Wlad since these are his prime years and Haye needs to understand that. He may do that but Wladimir shouldn't have to he is young, skilled and will otherwise waste his best legacy making years.

6) I believe Haye wants the fight now but I am pessimistic all the same.

7) Yes, although I really do think Haye beats Vitali at this point in time because of Vitali's age and so would prefer to see him fight Wlad since both are in their primes.

Side Note: Haye should not have been so greedy for SKY PPV and taken an earlier date or accepted the July the 2nd meeting imo.

 

Can you show me a link from a reputable news source that says May or June was available for the UK, and no problems with the TV either? I'm not saying it doesn't exist or that it's not true. But, I don't know, and I haven't seen one myself.

I already assumed it was true in my earlier post. Like I said..just because Wladimir said he will fight anywhere, that doesn't mean he goes into the negotiations and immediately gives up his preferred location. That's not how it works.

 

1. Why wasn't Haye offered a fight in September, which is now the date for a Wlad/Adamek fight?

lol not sure why fans would know that but Haye himself said "July or never." and thats all we have to go on.

2. Is it possible to promote a Wlad/Haye fight as well as it should be, given the restrictions of the 8 week gap between the Chisora and Haye fights?

Yes, Tyson/Spinks comes to mind. Plenty of Heavyweight Superfights throughout history have been promoted in that time span.


3. Was Wlad right to reject a fight in the UK in May? He wouldn't have needed a fight to lose ring rust and it would be a bigger money fight in Britain. Was Wlad right to reject that bout and, if so, why?

According to ESPN it was RTL that ruled May out, unforunately. Haye is the only source I've seen that claimed it was over refusal to travel.

"We couldn't find a date after April, not in May or June," Boente said. "Either there was no date for RTL or Sky or a stadium [because of the heavy soccer schedule]. We couldn't believe it, but that's Sky's decision. April 30 was the perfect date for RTL and for a stadium, but Sky never has done two pay-per-views in one month. Klitschko-Haye would be a way bigger pay-per-view event [than Khan]."
Boente said the earliest date for the fight they could come up with that matched the networks and venue availability was July 2.

4. This is the biggest fight in Wlad's career so far, so is it unusual he would be happy to disrupt his training which has worked for him so far? He would either have to train for 18+ weeks non-stop, including the Chisora fight, or he would have a rest and then an eventual 6-7 week training camp. Does this make sense, considering it's the biggest fight of his career?

Not the biggest fight of his career, but certainly the biggest fight at the moment. And I don't think we are in position to question Wlad about his own body, I'm sure he knows what's best for himself.

5. If Haye had no intention to fight Wlad, why did he accept every demand before Klitschko mentioned Chisora?

I have no idea whats going on in Haye's head, I think he probably wants the fight but judging by his rants and past hijinks, he seems to have a very poor attitude and lack of character that have made him untrustworthy and difficult to work with. K2 are stubborn too, but in this instance I can't blame them. I get the impression Haye wants everything on his time line...yeeesh, it took him how to long to accept the 50/50? Oddly, just less than a year before his planned retirement.

6. If Haye didn't want the fight, why would he accept 50/50, despite bringing over twice as much to the table as Klitschko? Why did he accept the fight to be in Germany, where it isn't neutral, like America, and makes less money than Britain?

:deadYou started off so well with these questions.

7. Should Vitali ask the WBC if he can unify instead of going ahead with the Solis fight? He and Haye are free and the fight could happen in May in Britain. Should Vitali at least ask for permission to unify?

I would rather see Haye/Wlad but I guess any top heavyweights fighting each other would be nice. An ideal scenario would be Haye beating Vitali and challenging Wlad for all the marbles...but I think we all know the reason why that hasn't been considered.

 

you racist ****!! but yeah, being polish kinda sucks

 

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Because Wlad had no intention of fighting Haye. K2 have been in negotiations with Adamek for weeks/months for the September date. No way Wlad was going to fight Chisora, Haye then Adamek all in the space of 6 months. This whole scenario stinks of payback for Haye choosing Valuev over Vitali.

No. To assume a promotional tour covering America, the UK and Germany could be conducted with enough time for recovering and training is crazy. Lesser fights have been given 12 weeks+, this fight deserves proper promotion.

No. After calling Haye out he should have followed through. To say Haye done the same to the brothers doesn't wash with me. Klitschko fans called Haye a ***** for such actions, will they be willing to do the same with Wlad?

Don't forget to add Adamek!! That would mean Wlad would fight April 30th, July 2nd and then September. Those that may suggest Adamek was a back up plan are wrong. You don't negotiate a date for a stadium in Poland with Polands biggest fighter as a back up plan. Crazy talk.

Haye had every intention of fighting Wlad, it was Wlad who had no intention of fighting Haye.

Haye wanted the fight, Wlad wanted to teach him a lesson.... or something......

Yes. A mandatory opponent recieves 30%, far more than the usual 10-15% K2 pay for voluntary fights therefore now's the time. Whether Haye accepts after what has just happened is another matter.