7 Questions to Klitschko Fans

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Jan 8, 2011.


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  1. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The first Peter fight was seen as a "Make it or break it" fight for Wlad.
    I would say it was more important than a potential fight with Haye.
     
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  2. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You and the other Haye fans completely ignoring the arguments made by those who side with Klitschko on this doesn't mean that they just disappear. You just look like a "clueless fud" with your riding Haye's dick. At least Jack is trying to have a decent conversation though, as asinine as I found his points to be aside.
     
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  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course they wouldn't do it. How can they readjusted Khan's card, when he has an opponent, and Haye doesn't? That doesn't make sense.

    What does Khan's glass chin have to do with anything? He shut you up when he fought Maidana anyway, didn't he?
    he has a fight which is literally about to go to purse bids. He isn't available right now. The only way he could be, is if he asks the WBC for permission to unify which he hasn't and, probably won't, do.
     
    Jack, Jan 8, 2011
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  4. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya, Jack (even though I don't agree with him) is the only one I can feel like I'm having a halfway decent debate with. The others just seem to hate, hate, hate, no reason at all behind any of their posts....
     
    BoxingDomain, Jan 8, 2011
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  5. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1,No idea why it was not offered.Would they have expected Haye not to fight untill September?Its strange cos Haye would have rightly knocked that idea back.Wlad could have then said Haye was ducking out.
    2,I would say yes there is enough time to promote it.It dont really need much promoting.People want to see this fight.
    3,Yes Wlad was wrong.May would have been ideal for the fight.Neither could say they were rusty.He is waiting untill April to fight anyway so a few weeks would make no difference.
    4,Dont know
    5,It does seem as though Haye wanted the fight,I dont understand why Wlad wants to **** about with Chisora.Maybe he wanted Haye to pull the plug on the talks.
    6,I think Haye wants the fight,his other options are pretty dire.Even in Britain where he has a huge following people want to see him fight Wlad and not some guy they aint heard of or another Audley.Haye is being pushed by public demand to make this fight.Wlad`s German fan base dont seem to mind who he fights they will sell out a huge arena for Chisora.Haye`s fans wont turn out in huge numbers for a Chagaev fight.Haye needs this fight to happen.
    7,Yes Vittali should ask if he can.If they say no then fair enough he fights Solis but he should ask.
     
    p.Townend, Jan 8, 2011
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  6. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jack has owned you all.

    THE KLIT LICKERS ARE DUCKING JACK:bbb
     
    Check_Hook, Jan 8, 2011
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  7. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The rest are either loudmouthed superfans like racer or out-and-out biggots like relentless for the most part.
     
    Steenalized, Jan 8, 2011
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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Khan does not have an opponent.

    July 2nd is available for Haye to fight Vitali after Vitali smashes that fat ass Solis.

    Like I said they would not even move a Khan fight where he has NO OPPONENT for Haye. :lol::rofl That is like a slap in the face.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Jan 8, 2011
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  9. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've been back and forth putting all the facts towards people like you the last couple days in detail

    Everything that you and the rest have put forward has been answered many times by a few of us, then mostly ignored same as the questions we have asked back that are still unanswered.

    Wlad fans have come off looking either clueless or stupid on most of the threads.
     
    theboy_racer, Jan 8, 2011
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  10. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sure Klitschko fans feel the exact same way towards you, only they aren't following a well-established Ducker.
     
    Steenalized, Jan 8, 2011
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  11. sosolid4u09

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    to boxing domains credit, at least he answered the q's (even if i dont agree)

    HOW many other klit fans have even attempted to answer the q's?

    jack i agree with you 100% on each point and im glad you put all the points together in one thread. the problem is that coz of haye's antics in the past, a lot of posters just blindly hate haye now. they see a thread defending haye and without reading they jump all over it and chat crap. totally off topic.

    you wont see these q's answered by a lot of klit fans believe me. and that says a LOT about the situation.
     
    sosolid4u09, Jan 8, 2011
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  12. Check_Hook

    Check_Hook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good

    Can some one please answer this one(will probably be ignored)

    When Wlad called Haye out and said he wanted Haye and was willing to fight him anywhere, Why did he then turn down U.K AND THE US?

    Look forward to an answer!
     
    Check_Hook, Jan 8, 2011
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  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I genuinely applaud you for admitting Haye has made more concessions. I think it's clear he has, but it's been a point ignored by many Klitschko fans, so well done and I'm not being sarcastic there.

    As I always say, boxing isn't about titles when it comes to negotiations, it's about money. You can say Haye should make more concessions, yet which bigger draws would make them in other divisions? I've mentioned this a few times because it's absolutely true - If Mayweather fought Martinez, he'd take over 70% of the cut because he brings that into the fight. Titles don't mean anything, rightly or wrongly, when fighters negotiate.
    Given GBP's deal with HBO, I think it's very unlikely the fight would be on Showtime. Especially as HBO have always backed British fighters in the past too, such as Hatton, Khan and Calzaghe. Haye is another British draw who I'm sure HBO would love to back.

    Why don't you think they'd agree? As I pointed out earlier, Haye brings in far more money on TV rights than Wlad, yet they agreed to 50/50. If they were willing to accept less than they deserve there, surely they'd be willing to do it again with the fight location, just to make it happen?
    You're right, there's no reason to suspect Wlad wouldn't do it. I can see why people would though, even though Wlad doesn't have a history of it.

    As for Peter, you really think that's his biggest fight? I'd say Chagaev so far but a Haye fight would be more remembered. Fans only remember the biggest fights, so even if Haye isn't the best fighter Wlad has fought, which I think he is, it'd still be more remembered.
    Would you agree, because of the long list of fighters who have accused K2, that it's fair to also refuse to believe what they say?

    In all his career, not one fighter that I know of, has had troubles negotiating with Haye. Not even Don King or Sauerland, who are notorious. Even Frank Warren, who has a public feud with Haye, got the fight with Maccarinelli signed in no time. On the other hand, look at how many people have accused the Klitschko's of wrongdoing. You'd have to assume, looking at the histories of both fighters, that K2 are much more awkward to deal with.
     
    Jack, Jan 8, 2011
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  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's ready to fight Peterson. It should be signed in the next few days. The rest is just a formality, according to everyone involved.

    May is also available for Vitali, if he wants it. If he doesn't ask the WBC if he can unify, will you call him out on it?
     
    Jack, Jan 8, 2011
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  15. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    This is my point which is lost on the hard of learning.

    We have answered every question put forth with facts, they either ignore our questions, repeat the same stuff thats already been explained to them time and time again or come up with unrelated ****, but never a good arguement for their guy ducking Haye.

    You just have to look at each thread and it stands out that the Wlad fans arent even that disappointed about the fight not happening.
     
    theboy_racer, Jan 8, 2011
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