1. The Adamek agreement came after Haye said that he was done with the Klits as well as after Wlad had Haye turn down the July 2 date. Haye cannot wait until September if he was going to face both Klits by October. 2. Yes, promotion could begin immediately after the fight was signed and agreed upon. Chisora being British would allow the opportunity to promote even during that fight. 3. I need a link to verify Wlad turned down the May date. As far as I read, Sky could not provide a May date and they needed to wait until July. Wlad was willing to fight in April and May according to ESPN and Boxing Scene. 4. It would be the biggest fight and that is why he did not want to be rusty. He is used to being an active fighter but previous failed Haye negotiations and shoulder problems have kept him less active in the last year and a half. Wlad believes he would walk through Chisora so he wouldn't need but a week to heal anyways. 5. NONE of these demands were outrageous. Wlad is the recognized champ and should be put in the proper corner and such. If Wlad demanded a Germany fight, that is at least something but he has previously agreed to come to Britain so I think he would be fine with it again. 6. Every time I have every heard people talk about Wlad's earnings, it is far more than 3 mil. I always hear it being in the neighborhood of 10 mil. I have never seen the actual numbers and always thought that was high so please give me a link. I know he was going to get over 8 for the Povetkin fight before Atlas backed him out. 7. Vitali HAS asked out multiple times and the WBC has rejected him this time. He CANNOT get out of the Solis fight.
Listen man. I'm ****in pissed. I can't remember bein this mad when a fight didn't take place since Margarito and Mayweather fell through. The thing is, I'm not really a fan of Haye. To be honest, there are few boxers I would consider myself a "FAN" of. I'm not sayin, I don't like to watch him fight because I do for the most part as he is capable of exciting fights. But the thing is, I KNOW THIS GUY can knock Wlad out. And to be honest, I'm tired of Klitschko fanatics. Anytime a boxer gets SO OVERRATED without really proving it, I feel obligated to step in. I used to talk **** about Mayweather, but in my eyes, I was wrong as Mayweather might be the best fighter of this generation. I can't say anything bad about Pac really either. Now Dawson, I talked **** on cuz I feel like he didn't show the heart necessary in some of his big fights. But Wlad, this mother ****er is a straight fraud. Don't get me wrong, his size and attributes make him formidabe, but his weakness make him incredibly vulnerable against the right fighter. Haye happens to be the fighter that can exploit those weaknesses, as Klitschko showed in his knockout losses that he's not a true fighter. He can't overcome adversity. And this will be his downfall against Haye, but he managed to talk his way out of a fight despite sayin, ANYTIME and ANYWHERE. I'm honestly ****in furious especially after I thought the fight was gonna be finalized. I mean, I am ****IN FURIOUS.
Hayes wouldn't of got up from one of those punches, an sanders refused to give wlad a rematch 6 months later:yep I guess sanders was a little more impressed with wlads skills then you. So what, wlad looked passed a semipro golfer, as alot champs would of, you could tell wlad was not sharp that fight. Wlad got off the canvas 3 times against peters, an sence his 11th round of that fight, you could argue he has not lost a round yet. That would be 85 rounds counting the last two in the peters fight, that is ten fights, an 9 by KO an all the boxers were in the top ten when it happened, :good
Well, he asked about voluntary defense against Adamek. I am sure WBC will be more accommodating about unification. In any case, suppose he can get out of Solis fight - why would he want to? He can fight in March and be ready in July. The problem is not Vitali - the problem is Haye. He wants an excuse to duck Chagaev. The only reason he pulled out of Wlad fight is that if Wlad fights Chisora Haye has to fight Chagaev.
The real question is, how long until Haye gets his glass jaw shattered again all over the canvas? Rico? :yep
Why cannot Haye fight Chagaev in March? He was given April 3rd deadline in November. It is not like he just found out that he has mandatory defense coming up. Source? Of course he needs it. His actions speak to it. Why do you think Haye became so agreeable all of the sudden?
Haye likes to fight once a year. Wladimir likes to fight 2-3 times a year. And it is the exact same with the Mayweather/Pacquiao negotiations. Pacquiao knew that by requesting the 21, then 14, then 7 day window there would be no fight and he did it anyway. Yet, 3/4 of posters seem to blame Mayweather for the negotiations. With the stance you just took above, you better believe that Pacquiao is 100% behind those failed negotiations or you are a major, major hypocrite.
"Did you see the way Pacquiao hit the canvas and got counted out against the likes of Singsurat and Torrecampo? In the 3rd round both times!!! That guy must really suck." - HENDO Even though, I do agree if what you are trying to say is that people forget about boxers' worst moments if they are die hard fans of the fighter. It does seem people forget about embarrassing, savage losses against shitty or sub par opposition when rating their favorite fighters (amongst all time status).
You could say the Chisora fight (and its build up) would be better promotion for a Klitschko-Haye fight than the one or two press conferences they would otherwise do in that time. If Wlad were fighting anyone but a Brit, that wouldn't be the case. But Haye would be all over Sky Sports in the build up, the Chisora fight would probably get more people in the UK interested than if that fight wasn't happening. And the UK and Germany are the countries that matter as far as promotion goes. More so here because of PPV
Why you sayin I said some bull**** I never said? And Pac losses to them was WAY before he was champ. Wlad was 40 ****in fights in his career, a gold medal winner, and in his7th title fight when he was crawlin around like a ***** after not gettin hit.
1. I'm led to believe Haye outright rejected any fight date other than the one he wanted. 2. Who ****ing cares? It's the heavyweight championship of the world. Haye has all of Britain watchign already, Klitschkos have people form all over Europe. Both are known in the US. 3. Because Haye has ducked him at the last minute before. I firmly believe the Chisora fight is just a way for Wlad to show Haye how little he thinks of him. 4. He wants to train more because Haye is his first actual challenge in...forever. 5. To make it seem like he wanted the fight so that his eventual bitchout would be more defensible (he had an injury, really wanted the fight, etc.). 6. Because he didn't ever intend to fight? Oh, also because he's the challenger. 7. Absolutely, but Haye wont fight him. He at least has a chance to knock out Wladimir. I'm by no means a Klitschko fan but I just hate hearing Haye get defended. The guy is a *****, and whatever way you slice it, HE is the guy refusing to fight Wlad here, not the other way around. People are overlooking this.
You cannot deny the fact which is the fight was ready to go July 2nd, AFTER Wlad had turned down dates in England and refused to fight in the U.S. Wlad then said he would fight Chisora, Haye gave him the option Haye/Chisora. Wlad picked Chisora, if he was so confident of beating Haye, Unifiyng the titles, making 5 times more money, taking on a legitimate challage. He surley would have chose have for the sake of boxing and gave the world what they wanted.......HE DIDNT!