Steroids being available does not mean they were being used widespread.....they weren't. Steroids being available does not mean they were administered in the proper manner or were the same chemically.....they weren't. Since the mid 80's onward steroids evolved into a science and use WIDESPREAD. Not the case in the mid 70's in the boxing world.
The two best punchers he fought floored him multiple times ( Foreman and Bonevena ), and by his own admission Bonevena neatly knocked him out. He was stunned or had his knees buckled by guys like Stander or Bugner, who hardly landed anything serious, and was floored early in his 2nd fight. I do not think Frazier was durable, and his resume is absent of other punchers like Shavers, Norton, Lyle, Liston, etc...
This content is protected This content is protected not if he got stopped before half time by retiring ali/frazier/foreman (an old lewis equivalent), or quit against bob foster/chris byrd equivalent - HerolGee This content is protected That wouldn't be a monster, he'd be doing as good as Jean Pierre Coopman, he did as well vs ali as vitali did vs lewis. He'd be a Coopman. - HerolGee This content is protected This content is protected this clown is trying to suggest vitali might be more durable than ali. -HerolGee Answer my questions, and stop trying to act as if my points don't bother you because they are true. Foreman looked like &hit vs a stationary Ali. This content is protected they have replied, but u choose in kliturd world to ignore them. -HerolGee This content is protected
Ali got dropped by a 178lb (journey)man. Vitali was never dropped, not even by flush hits from a 250lb ATG. The only clown here is you :good
Don't tell him Sonny Banks, a sub 200 pounder also floored Ali, and by all means avoid the Jimmy Young fight, round nine. And the sloppy Chuck Wepner, who also floored Ali.
Perry, have you ever fought or even sparred with someone who was significantly larger than yourself before? Vitali Klitschko was actually more like 6'8", and from the time of his debut was already over 230.. Did he use PED's his entire career or just at points? That I'm not sure of, but I think its pretty obvious that he was a bigger man than George Foreman with or without performance enhancing drugs. That may be true. But in a head to head fantasy matchup it is what it is. You take the two guys in question and match them just as they were, and not try and create two people who don't exist.
why you talking like this is a serious argument. tell me why when u r ready, but make sure u r ready, cheers.