70s Foreman vs Vitali Klitschko

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  1. foreman&dempsey

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    Seriously one OF the most horrible post ever,horrible!!!
     
  2. BCS8

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    So you think Vitali hits harder punch for punch than Foreman :think Interesting. I would have said not, but OK. Vits is definitely the bigger dude.
     
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  5. latineg

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    I would take a prime Foreman but only by a hair,,,,,,and that would depend on him being able to land his huge power shots against the taller hard to hit Vits.

    however, anyone that claims Vits has no chance is just being a extreme and closed minded idiot, imo :hat

    Vits would be a handful for any great heavy and a Vit win/decision would not surprise me.

    I think Vits would have more trouble against a faster more mobile heavy which Foreman wasn't. If Vits was quick enough to score from long range against George it could be a very long night for Foreman.

    Would love to see this fight :bbb
     
  6. BCS8

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    ^ Good post by Latineg.

    I think that this matchup would have been a corker.
     
  7. sauhund II

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    I met both, however Foreman was in his high thirties and Vitaly is taller but very skinny and lean and Foreman is born "Farm strengh", no comparison for the eye test , Foreman looks more powerful.

    Foreman is accused of being sloppy......Vitalis affair against Lewis was EXTREMELY sloppy, fact.

    A aging Lewis carved up Vitaly like a Thanksgiving dinner in a close quarter combat meeting without a lot of finesse.

    It stands to reason that Foreman would employ the same game plan and force a fire fight from the get go and involve Vitaly in the same mano di mano battle. The key to beat the K brothers is to jump on them immediately and dont give them any breathing room and make them fight not lean back and fight a long range chess match.

    It was applied by Sanders who made WK fold and again applied by Lemmie who stopped VK in six and you can bet your bottom dollar that Foreman's application of the same strategy would pay the same dividents.
     
  8. BCS8

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    Good post :good

    I do agree with you that Vits vs Lewis was a straight up brawl and that he was uncharacteristically sloppy. Frankly I wonder if that wasn't more to the bad feeling between them than other factors.

    "Jumping on the Klitschkos" ... mmmh. Yes and no. Clearly Foreman isn't winning a long range battle so he probably has no choice.

    But Sanders didn't exactly bumrush Wlad ... he boxed him and looked for the opening. Wlad's problem with Sanders is that Sanders is a very fast punching, straight punching and accurate heavyweight that carries some considerable pop in his hands. Vitali fell into the same trap and got caught flush coming in. But if you notice later on, when Vitali wised up and used his footwork and body sway to box right, Sanders had great difficulty in landing cleanly on him again. He was always missing Vits by an inch or two.

    I suggest that Foreman might struggle to land cleanly on Vitali as well, especially since he is more of a clubbing puncher that doesn't maximise his reach. Now, if he unleashed hell onto Vitali's body in a bid to slow him down, that might well be a more profitable strategy than trying to head hunt Klitschko.
     
  9. foreman&dempsey

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  10. N_ N___

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    One thing to keep in mind is that Corrie Sanders had virtually the same measurements as George Foreman, but could close the gap better with quicker feet and hands. Despite that , he was visibility much shorter than Vitali (I was there) and struggled to land on him. Some of his cleaner connects were due to setting traps and countering with the left. Foreman lacked countering ability and would struggle to land clean headshots.

    If Foreman had a referee from 1900 who allowed him to wrestle and hold and hit, his chances would improve. Assuming the ref would break, he'd have hell to pay getting inside and then would get tied up.



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  11. Mr.DagoWop

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    I don't think Foreman would really need to land clean against Vitali. In his fight with Ali he was all over him pulling his guard down and really man handling him. I could see him doing the same with Vitali.
     
  12. N_ N___

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    Ali welcomed that. Vitali would go octopus.



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  13. sauhund II

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    Vitali octopus ? He does not clinch......or does not know how to and is a poor infighter which comes as no surprise because of his height and reach there is no reason to get close, "fight tall" however if Zaire Foreman swarms him and I dont see him having the tools to get Foreman off him, he could not get a sloppy Lewis off so it will be IMO a replay of the Lewis fight where he almost received career ending injuries. I like VK but I just dont think he is skilled or talented enough to fight in the trenches against certain fighters. IMO Foreman, Bowe and Tyson will do a number on him by simply mauling him badly.


    BTW, Sanders did get on WK quickly and landed a good shot very early but instead taking a step and working off the jab at range , maybe even loosing a round or two to clear the cobb webs he went tit for tat aka guns blazing OK corral against Corrie and ultimately was ill equipped to have that kind of fight, he literally ran into the same shots over and over again until he was stopped.

    My point is, the K brothers are very hard to beat when you let them dictate the pace from range but become less than ordinary when you make them fight on instinct without time to think. Proof ? Lewis, Sanders and Brewster.
     
  14. N_ N___

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    Vitali can clinch. I don't know what you're talking about there.


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  15. BCS8

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    I agree with this post. If it was so easy to bumrush Vitali more guys would have done it. Sanders rarely struggled to land on opponents (except for a few occasions where he was woefully undertrained) and I never saw him battle to connect like he did with Vits. And Sanders has much faster hands than Foreman.