70's Heavy Really the best

For the most part yes, but not exclusively.

Holmes' first 32 fights were during the 70's and that includes his biggest wins over Norton, Shavers and Weaver. Although he can't quite be made a part of the class with Foreman, Ali, Frazier and Norton, we could at least say that Holmes had a legitimate prescence in the latter half of the decade.

 

Tyson and Lewis would have definately been champions in the 1970s. Holyfield would either be a champion or a perennial #1-#5 contender, but only because the single HW title meant there could be stylistically "bad" champions that would be hard for him to beat.

70s Ali would be even money against both prime Tyson and the better versions of Lewis IMO...80s late cruiser/early heavy Holyfield would be a 40/60 underdog in my eyes, hard to predict. It really depends on which Ali showed up.

I think Frazier would take a horrendous beating at the hands of Tyson, beat Lewis decisively (KO/shutout UD), and be even money with a young Holyfield.

Foreman would be even money with Tyson, a 75/25ish favorite over young Holyfield, and would most likely annihilate Lewis (it would be either devastating Foreman KO or Lewis UD, probably).

70s Holmes (any Holmes for that matter) loses to Tyson but beats Holyfield (close but clear UD). I'm fairly confident he would beat Lewis, but I'm not sure. He'd be at least a 60/40 or so favorite, though.

Riddick Bowe, let's say from Holyfield I, would destroy Frazier. He would get pummelled into TKO by Ali, and would be annihilated by Foreman, though. The victory over Frazier ONLY happens if Bowe is in the best shape of his life, though...which is why I say Holyfield I, any other Bowe gets killed. He would most likely lose to Holmes as well.

Lewis, Tyson, and Holyfield all have what to takes to destroy most (if not all) of the 1970s contenders, too. Bowe would beat up on most of the smaller, infighter guys, but would probably lose to guys like Jimmy Young.

IMO a guy like Razor Ruddock could do very well in the 1970s. Ruddock is highly underrated - extremely durable, iron chin, and a monstrous punch. Above average stamina, too, and he was physically large to boot.

 

The only 70s hws i would bet money on to beat Tyson Holyfield or Lewis are Ali Frazier and Foreman (Holmes is NOT a 70s HW).

 

Yeah, just look at how Holyfield completely *********, outpunched and basically gave Foreman a big beating while never being in danger of losing the fight.

Horrible assesement of Lipton.


Edit: i have no idea why it's being censored, but it said "o u t - b o x e d"

 

Great odds. I'll have 10 grand on Ali.

 

Why do you say that?

Frazier BEAT Ali in 1971, Tyson would give him even more problems.

Tyson might actually be able to finish Ali.

1970s Ali is NOT 60s Clay, that's why I think Tyson would be very competitive.

 

I have been watching boxing for a long time and I think every era from Dempsey/Tunney to Louis, Marciano,Ali,Tyson,Lewis and now have there own share of great Heavys, the 70's were no better in fact I think today with Klitchko's,Sultan I. Ruslin C. Valuev,Virchis,Maskaev,Peter,Povetkin,Eddie Chambers,Briggs,Thompson, they would hold there own in any era, most of these guys have vast amatuer backround, I dont know if they would or would not beat the Champs but they are just as good or better as any of the contenders of any era and proberly more skilled

 

Frazier beat Ali because he had 15 rounds of energy and constant punch-throwing, Tyson could never do this. Ali became just about the 'immovable object' during his second reign and, while Tyson would have been competitive, he'd have been psyched out and tired by the latter stages of the fight. Hanging on at the final bell and probably still crying about some minor head clash that happened in Round 4. This is not Tony 'Joe Bugner's My Idol' Tucker or Bonecrusher 'John Ruiz Template' Smith, Tyson would be meeting here. Ali UD.

 

I'm not so sure Tyson couldn't take out the Ali Frazier faced in the first fight.

 

I am.

 

Well there's a chance I suppose, but then again, there's a chance that Tyson's never engaged with a felching session with a number of men. I just don't see it though.

 

, I give the guy some credit during the late 1980s. I personally believe his speed and power was greater than Joe's for a very brief period during his career.

 

He was good, very good in fact. But I think Ali rides out those early dangerous moments. I've seen enough boxing to know that when push comes to shove, i'll go for 'immovable object' over 'irresistible force' far more often than not.