'73 George Foreman vs. '88 Mike Tyson

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Foreman had a better two fisted attack than Bruno. But I think frank packs comparable power in a "single" shot.. And Bruno got his ass kicked anyway.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not saying Tyson is a coward but the biggest question would be would his team take the fight? I suppose they'd have no choice about the matter.
     
  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes and Frank had Tyson hurt early on, young Foreman punched faster, more often and had more shots in his ****nal.
     
  4. daverobin

    daverobin Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    foreman tko in 6 or 7 rds tysons defence was better then fraziers and harder to hit then frazier but thats not gonna stop big george horrible style for tyson in this one
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    Lol.. You mean when frank was holding behind the head while rabbit punching and managed to land a decent shot that had tyson blinking for about two seconds? Bro Tyson probably successfully survived more big hitters than foreman ever did. Frank bruno, razor ruddock, bonecrusher smith, Pinklon Thomas, etc.. Hell he was shot to pieces when fighting lewis and still took a pounding for eight rounds.. This " foreman hammers Tyson in three rounds " stuff isn't really being backed up here with any substance. 70's foreman had poor defense, bad stamina and mediocre generalship. If his destruction of joe Frazier is your reason for picking him so adamantly then consider that Frazier had NO track record against big punchers.. Hell Oscar bonavena decked him twice... Joe also didn't have Tyson's power to answer back and if we're truthful was declining by 1973...
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No you need to re watch the first round again, Bruno staggered Tyson with a left hook but decided to follow it up with grabbing and rabbit punching, Foreman would follow it up with murderous hooks and uppercuts. Bringing up Bonecrusher Smith into the discussion makes me chuckle, he didn't have the ***** to throw a big punch till the end of the 12th round...
     
  7. TheOldTimer

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    Tyson of 1988 would have wiped the floor with him he's better in every single category technique, speed, power, endurance, punch resistance, versatility, adaptation, fluency, timing, conditioning, body punching, ring iq, boxing ability, effective aggression, defense etc..All these attributes are in favour of Tyson the power is arguable but Tysons punches are shorter faster more accurate and precisely placed with more velocity behind them and probably do more damage than a Foreman assault. Foreman was there to be hit he had very little head movement and Tyson would be bouncing combinations off his head like he did Pinkon Thomas. I think it would be a quick one and the gulf in class or skill between the two would be very visible early.
     
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  8. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman knocked out once in a long career...and that was by Ali...He had a Granite Chin and no way Tyson TKO's Big George....George by Knockout round 6.....
     
  9. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Posts like this remind me why Tyson is as underrated as he is nowadays :roll:
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    Incorrect... He continued to throw and neither that big left hook nor Bruno's follow up stopped Tyson from returning fire.. That fight mostly featured a guy holding for dear life, fighting dirty and getting his butt handed to him..... Also keep in mind that said fighter was 6'4", 228 lbs of solid muscle and with about a 90% KO average and most of what he was landing did jack.... fight is below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NktfvqUpn9g

    Since we're in the spirit of referencing shaky moments in fights, check
    out 14:43 of the clip below and again at 16:52... Hell you might as well watch the whole fight we're Foreman was getting tagged, staggered and dropped at will by a 35 year old fighter who had NEVER Ko'd a ranked opponent.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8AVcEyyMco

    Watch the first round.. Plenty of Smith punches thrown there and some of them were big shots.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOZCO3SRmE0
     
  11. TheOldTimer

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    Nonsense.
    Smith fought a pathetic fight lost all 12 rounds and did absolutely nothing, that punch that everyone is so fascinated with barely lands and definitely didn't hurt or stagger Tyson.
    Tyson in 1988 could take you excellent fighters out early early, (spinks, Tubbs) could break you down systematically over 5 6 or 7 rounds ( Biggs, Bruno,) could outpoint and outpunch excellent boxers like Tillis and Tucker and he could also take you out with one shot at any time even if he isn't having his way in the fight, (Holmes, Thomas). He was a great great fighter at his best.
     
  12. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    And none of those guys were Foreman. I'm the first one to admit that Tyson is extremely underrated and at his best a great fighter but you're pushing it.

    "Great boxers like Tillis and Tucker"

    Tillis was a journeyman who shouldn't really have been going rounds, let alone winning them. Tucker was a good fighter and it reflects, Tyson lost rounds. And Tucker is no Foreman.

    This is just an example. The crop Tyson fought in the 80s is short-sold but they were no world beaters. Certainly no win of Tysons is more impressive than 2 round destructions of Frazier and Norton.

    This is just a bad match-up for Tyson. Simple as.
     
  13. Wass1985

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    Yes he continued to throw **** punches, Foreman was levels and levels above Bruno. He wouldn't be a rabbit caught in the headlights that's for sure.

    Talking about shaky moments, check out a 34 year old pumped up cruiserweight turning Tyson into a drunkard... http://youtu.be/G_fM3OIbua4
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    1. Thank you
    2. Not in terms of raw power
    3. That pumped cruiser weight had more heart, chin and skill than most ATGs and would likely beat any version of George. The who decked foreman twice and battered him from pillar to post had never stopped a ranked heavyweight or anyone durable.
     
  15. Hookie

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    Tyson beat guys as tall and even taller than Foreman. Tyson beat guys who had reaches as long and even longer than Foreman's.

    Those guys were a pile of dog shlt compared to George Foreman!

    Foreman beat Frazier twice, KO2 and KO5. He dropped Frazier so many times I lost count (7 or 8 I believe). Frazier and Tyson are not the same, but they had some similarities. Foreman had power in both hands from the 1st round to the last. He had a good jab... it was powerful and accurate. Foreman could take a great shot and come back to stop his opponent. Foreman was also very strong... if a guy was getting too close he'd simply push him out of range (and into Foreman's range) and hit him with one or two hard shots which would set him up for more punishment.

    Tyson had speed and this would allow him some success but I don't think it would be enough.

    Not taking anything away from Tyson but I think Foreman stops him inside of 6 rounds.

    I rate them #4 (Foreman) and #5 (Tyson) on the all-time great HW list.