76-77 jimmy young vs 83 tim whiterspoon

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  1. foreman&dempsey

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    yeah, foreman was not 100% for the lyle fight but spoon was a very different fighter than lyle and ron did hit much . harder than spoon, foreman does not need to be at 100% to beat him, at 87% is enough. foreman would knock him out, 76ali would beat him by a competitive close.sd. spoon was not that good.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Foreman wasn't even at 87%. More like 60%.

    1 ) Witherspoon had an excellent chin! He fought many punchers. Who aside from Smith stopped Witherspoon in his prime?

    2 ) Witherspoon had good power and better skills than Lyle. Better defense too. I think he takes the Foreman who fought Young. Young, who was a pillow fisted puncher floored Foreman. What does that tell you?
     
  3. swagdelfadeel

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    That's funny because none of their common oppenents ever said Foreman hit harder. Johnny Tocco managed Liston, Foreman, and Tyson. He said Liston hit harder. Liston also had bigger biceps. Foreman had a harder chin than Liston? Foreman was down more times in one fight, than Liston was in his entire career!
    Funny because the majority of Liston's opponents were over 200 pounds. As a matter of fact, only eight opponents were Below 190 pounds.

     
  4. foreman&dempsey

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    well, did foreman hit harder and was better finisher than.smith or not?

    foreman and lyle fought trading toe to toe, in this type of fight lyle would be a harder oponent than spoon because he did hit harder,was physically stronger and more aggressive.
    i think that 60% is exagerated
     
  5. foreman&dempsey

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    pepe said, juansaid, David said... blábláblá, facts.my boy facts, foreman was harder puncher,was bigger,physically stronger than liston and he did beat.by far better men than liston did,his %ko is much better against better men,even when he fought in his 40s,foreman looked much more impresive against much bigger men in the power department,he did hit harder the heavybag too, the chin topic is not even a debate ,liston got knocked the **** out clen by a 190s pounder and another 190s pounder.broke his jaw,ali knocked him down with a single punch in the first round, foreman took.shots from power punchers like frazier,lyle,****ey,morrison,stewart,bert cooper,briggs,a ****ing great combo puncher in peak evander etc etc and never ever got knocked out cold,just against ali he was stopped because he was gassed
     
  6. swagdelfadeel

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    Lol It's funny because Liston had bigger biceps. It's funny because Liston was gassed as well when he fought Martin but you won't give him that excuse you gave Foreman. That shot that took Liston out would've taken out Foreman as well if he was as gassed as Liston. The chin topic is a debate since we're actually ****ing debating it. If you really think Liston was down against Ali, you're even more ridiculous as I thought. Even if you do think Ali knocked Liston down. Foreman was down in one fight as much as Liston was in his entire career!

    Liston took bombs of huge punchers Williams, Valdes, and DeJohn. The one big puncher foreman fought in his prime, Lyle, put him down twice. In one round...

    Also it's funny, because you always use other people's quotes to support Foreman's punching power but when I use other people's quotes, it's irrelevant and doesn't mean ****. :lol::lol:

    Thanks for the entertainment, though I don't think you'll be around to much longer to provide it. :nono
     
  7. foreman&dempsey

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    "huge punchers like Williams,valdez and dejohn"
    "the only puncher that foreman fought was lyle"
    "liston got ,knocked out against martin because he was gassed"
    "liston had bigger biceps,liston had bigger biceps,he wa. bigger than.foreman"

    lmao , you are the clown of the forum.it is why you are not banned
     
  8. swagdelfadeel

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    Foreman himself even said Williams was one of the three hardest punchers he ever met. That was a past prime shot (literally) Williams.

    Lyle was the hardest puncher Foreman fought. Williams was the hardest puncher Liston fought. One got knocked down twice against their opponent. One knocked them out in two rounds.

    Liston was definitely gassed, if you believe otherwise, I suggest you actually watch the fight instead of saying things that make you look rediculous. (Even more so than you already do)

    Um no, you said Foreman was stronger than Liston. He wasn't. Liston was physically stronger.
     
  9. foreman&dempsey

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    lol
     
  10. Perry

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    I think this is a perfect opponent for Young. He would frustrate the overrated Spoon and win a close decision over 15 rounds.

    Understand Young lost to Dokes, Page and Tubbs past his prime. Young the night he fought Norton wins this one.
     
  11. Perry

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    Lyle was Foremans first serious opponent in well over a year of inactivity. Lyle was a top rated puncher at that time. Being knocked down twice under those circumstances should not be looked at as a black mark. Coming back to win in a tough fight against top opposition is major criteria for all time greatness.

    Foreman stated that Williams was one of the top three punchers he was ever in the ring with.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Williams? Didn't you mean to say, Lyle?

    Foreman pre-Zaire doesn't get knocked down by Jimmy Young. Some fighters can come back from a KO loss, but in Foreman's case, he could not get back to his peak in the 1970's post-Zaire.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

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    How about actually refuting it instead of saying lol like a little school girl.