80's heavies vs. today

Id give it a clean sweep for the 80's guys there, with the possible exception of Peter getting lucky with a home run punch on Terrible T.

 

Sure you would. :-(

The funny thing is in about 20 years people will look back & say "look how deep the HW division was between 2000-2010..............:deal

 

Tubbs UD
Thomas UD
Bruno UD
Witherspoon UD
Berbick UD
Dokes TKO7

 

Tony Tubbs KO 6
Ruslan Chagaev UD
Nicolay Valuev KO 10
Tim Witherspoon vs. Samuel Peter Draw(depending on what time of TWs career)
Trevor Berbick vs. Tony Thompson(dont know Thompson).
Michael Dokes KO 5

Extra: Tyson-Klitchko - Tyson by KO 2 in his prime, Klitschko by TKO just after jailtime.

 

Full 80's sweep. And the potential best heavy of that group would have swept everyone of today's heavys.

 

People dont think that the HW division is exciting, or great mainly because one thing, Skin Color. Everyone, boxing fans, the media, thought 60's- early 90's were much better than now. DOnt get me wrong, I hate to bring this up. But people think that todays heavies really suck, because theyre white. But race isnt what produces good fighters. Its socio-economical times, and oppurtunities. Early ibn the century-1960 There were plenty white (and black) fighters. Because the great depression affected everyone, white and black. And there were many more whites living in poverty back then. Then In the 60's things realyl changed. Mainly blacks were stricken with poverty, and didnt have the oppurtunities that the whites hd. SO they chose sports as a way out. That is still goingf on today. But in eastern europe, they are going through the same thing now, mass poverty. WHich affects their mainly white population. And now, its their turn. They already dominate the HW boxing division. And Tennis, mainly womens. They are also becoming more common in basketball.

 

I tend to lean towards Today's heavysSultan,Chagaev,Valuev,Peter,Berbick,Dokes

 

What do you mean?
I genuinely mean that I think all the 80's guys win those match ups, and easily, and Holmes and Tyson would have slaughtered the two Klitschkos to add that in too.

 

look if you really look at it.

the 80's guys would win. but what i dont get you made a thread about 1980 heavyweights but you left the 3 top 1980 guys off the list in
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Ernie Shavers
now to me those 3 fighters right there would give Wlad the fight of his life and he would struggle to beat any in there Prime even Shavers.

 

The '80's heavies were no better than the current group. Obviously neither the '80's or '00's are as impressive as the '70's or '90's. However, the '80's just didn't impress me at all.

Tony Tubbs vs. Sultan Ibragimov - Ibragimov SD 12
Pinklon Thomas vs. Ruslan Chagaev - Chagaev TKO 10
Frank Bruno vs. Nicolay Valuev - Valuev TKO 11
Tim Witherspoon vs. Samuel Peter - Peter KO 7
Trevor Berbick vs. Tony Thompson - Berbick SD 12
Michael Dokes vs. Oleg Maskaev - Dokes TKO 8

I'm not saying the current era is any great shakes, but the ''talent'' of the '80's was no better.

And I have '88 Tyson winning by TKO 5 over Wlad, '96 Tyson losing by TKO 10, and '00 Tyson losing by KO 7.

It's popular to denigrate the current era. Even eras we now recognize to be good were often considered crap by the people of the time. I remember Thomas Hauser, who knows his stuff, railing about how the '90's were horrible, because, for a brief time, Bruno, Seldon, and Botha were ABC titlists. Now, in retrospect, we recognize that as a blip on the radar. But back then, that was a sign to many that all was lost and the heavies were ****.

Some perspective, people...

 

Chag UD12 Thomas
Valuez UD12 Bruno
Peter KO6 Witherspoon
Berbick UD12 Thompson (is this guy even a top 15 heavy? he's horrible.)
Maskaev KO10 Dokes (goddamn is Maskaev under-rated lately)


Ok, where are the real Klitchko/Tyson/Spinks/Klitchko/Liakovich/Holmes.. et al. matchups?

 

Witherspoon, Berbick, Bruno & Dokes would win their matches I think.

I'll give Chagaev and Ibragimov wins over Thomas and Tubbs though.

4-2 to the guys from the 80s