88 TYSON v. 92 BOWE - Who Wins?

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  1. streetsaresafer

    streetsaresafer Member Full Member

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    Who wins this matchup and why?

    I favor Tyson 2/1 oddswise but let me explain -

    This would probably be one of the most brutal heavyweight fights in history (think Hagler-Hearns for heavies) - two of the most offensive minded heavyweights we've seen and both guys had real firepower. Tyson certainly had more one punch power than Bowe, and hit a bit harder, but Bowe had very good power nontheless. Bowe had every punch, particularly a great uppercut.

    I have been working my way through Bowe's fights from 89-92 and am constantly impressed by how many punches Bowe throws per round and how aggressive he was. No doubt Bowe's weakness was his defense, he could definitely be hit. But he fought an aggressive style that allowed him to try and bomb off on the inside. And Bowe had an excellent jab when he used it. Bowe's fight against Tyrell Biggs I found particularly impressive - he was very agressive the whole fight coming forward, used his jab when needed, and eventually put Biggs out by the 8th round.

    Bowe's win against Holyfield in 92 is certainly his peak, but he had quite a few fights before that where he looked impressive. I know the knock is he was not in with many big punchers, but Bowe's skills speak for themselves. Not only was he great offensively, but he had a really good chin. Bowe did bob and weave some, moved his head a bit so he wasn't completely oblivious to defense.

    The Tyson of 88 certainly needs little explaining except to say that he was one of the most impressive heavy's I've ever seen and still believe 88 Tyson would have a live shot against any ATG heavy. Unbelievable combination of speed and power.

    Now how does this matchup go? Like I said, I favor Tyson 2/1 odds wise. I'd say Tyson takes this by 6th round KO. Both guys would score big, both could take a punch, in fact I see both guys getting knocked down a distinct possibility. I just don't see this going to the cards. Bowe would give Tyson potentially a lot of problems on the inside, but Tyson at mid range would be deadly. Bowe's chin and Tyson's chin would make this a longer fight than the bombs landed would indicate. But overall Tyson's defense in his prime was significantly better than Bowe's, and Tyson would eventually decimate Bowe with a combination that puts him out.

    So I say Tyson by 6th round KO in a fight that would be like Hagler/Hearns for heavies.

    So what say you?
     
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  2. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would have to favour Tyson to score the knockout...simply for the fact that, while Bowe has the right tools to outbox Mike, I think he'd be looking to go toe-to-toe and trade.

    I'm sure Futch would be trying like crazy to convince Bowe to stick with his jab and tie Mike up to begin with, before pouring on the heavy firepower in the second half of the fight. But Bowe would just want to slug, I feel.

    And slugging with '88 Tyson is not a very good idea.

    Tyson by stoppage in 6 rounds or so seems a pretty reasonable prediction to me. I just can't trust Bowe to fight the right way to beat Mike.
     
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  3. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    50-50 FIGHT. DEPENDS ON THE NIGHT. If bowe could get behind his jab. I think he could win. Bowe could of been in tyson's and ali's class. he really had the potential
     
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  4. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bUT TYSON OF 87 AND 88 WAS SO QUICK AND had GREAT HEAD MOVEMENT

    2-1 would be good odds on tyson
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No DQ option??? :patsch
     
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  6. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Tyson
     
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  7. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bowe's complete lack of defense, his average outside game, and his time proven tendency to brawl instead of fighting smart would've gotten him KO'd against Tyson

    Bowe's "macho" attitude in the ring would've done him in.

    But, he wouldn't have fought Tyson. I know some people are still in denial about this, but Bowe only fought 2 top level opponents in his career and neither was anything more than an average puncher by upper level heavyweight standards. And he was shaken up and hurt by both of them repeatedly. Bowe was steered away from big punchers all his career for a reason
     
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  8. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bowe by UD...his incredible chin and heart would carry him to the final bell while winning 4 early rounds

    EDIT...OOPS! I meant Tyson by UD
     
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  9. ko factor

    ko factor Active Member Full Member

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    I concur.:good
     
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  10. the_Hawk

    the_Hawk Member Full Member

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    100% right on! :good
     
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  11. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    tyson beats everybody

    too much power, skill, and focus in the ring
     
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  12. anut

    anut Boxing Addict banned

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    BAD FIGHT FOR BOWE.......IN MY OPINION BOWE ONLY HAD 2 GREAT FIGHTS.....THE 1ST HOLY BOUT AND HIS FIGHT AGAINST GONZALES,,,,,.....ANYWAY BOWE DOESNT THROW A STRAIGHT RIGHT HAND RIGHT DOWN THE PIPE.....TYSON WOULD REALLY BEAT ON BOWE BADLY....HELL PIERRE COETZER LANDED AT WILL AGAINST BOWE.....TYSON KNOCKS BOWE OUT IN 8 OR 9 RDS.......PS BOWE HAD A TOUGH TYME WIT BIIGS AND TUBBS...:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke
     
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  13. anut

    anut Boxing Addict banned

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    Ps Look At Bowes Fight With Bert Cooper I Know He Kod Cooper In The 2nd Round But Watch The 1st Rd.....tyson Would Do That All Nite Long But Much Better...
     
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  14. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bowe and Lenox Lewis are about the same size and I have stated in posts about a Tyson-Lewis match up Lewis would win. He ha the size skills and ring smarts to stay fromTyson. Bowe has the size and talent to win but I don't think he has the ring smarts to stay away from Tyson. I beleve that Bowe is one of the most under ratted heaveyweights and 92-95 version of Bowe would be dangures to any heaveyweight. I think Bowe would go toe to toe with Tyson. It would be an exciting fight maby even a clasic
    while it lasted but in the end Tyson has the advantage when they fight on the inside. Tyson KO 8.
    (Bowe could win by staying on the outside useing his reach advantage to box his way to a win.)
     
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  15. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson KO9 due to Bowe's lack of defense
     
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