88 Tyson vs 99 Lennox

The difference between the Mike Tyson of the late 80's and the one of the early 2000's is day and night. Fast hands, devastating power, better conditioned, more stamina, greater punch resistance, and better utilization of skills. Lennox would always be a tough fight, but my inclination is to go with the younger Tyson.

 

I totally utterly humiliated you on the other thread, so much you had to start swearing.

Now, here you are, spewing the same bull**** atsch

You: 'Anything Mike Tyson did, Ray Mercer could have easily done'
Me: 'Ray couldnt even beat Holmes or Ferguson'
You: 'Get of Tysons nuts'

 

No point wasting your time with this tosser,

check out this thread, read my replies and his so called rebuttals

atsch

http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=508675&page=4

'Ray Mercer could easily replace Tyson and do what he did'
'Tyson was 27 when the much older Holyfield beat the **** out of him'

Tyson was born in 1966, fought Holyfield in 1996. Holyfield was 34 and Tyson was 30

 

What's with all the Foreman fan clones and their bitter disregard for Tyson? You don't see Tyson fans smearing Foreman's name all over youtube and boxing forums. I think they just might be afraid that Iron Mike is gaining some serious ground on Foreman and his place in history.

 

I wouldnt call him a Foreman fan, he is simply a hater who ran out of ideas

First it was the Tyson struggles with taller opponents, when that didnt work, he tried to discredit Tysons career by saying Ray Mercer could have done just as well, when that didnt work it was the Tyson ducking Foreman story, when that didnt work, he started name calling

 

Tyson all day long, if Mcall and Rahman could knockout Lewis and Mercer takes Lewis into deep waters, im pretty sure Tyson could.

Big difference is Tyson was much faster and furious than all of them and a much better and a genuine ATG.

When did Tyson slow down in his prime? Lewis also fought Tucker (a much poorer version) and was unable to ko him either. Its funny how you penalise Tyson and the make the case for Lewis beating him based on Tyson going the distance with Tucker, yet failing to acknowledge Lewis went the distance with him too.

Lewis never stopped anyone late in a fight either, apart from a washed up Tyson

Man vs Boy? based on what? this is a 50/50 fight and both have had very similar careers and fought similar opposition.

Lewis never stopped anyone late in the fight, apart from the washed up Tyson he fought.

Tyson would decisively beat Lewis on the scoredcards, when he realises whats hes up against, hell just stick to the aforementioned Tucker, Smith gameplan and try to survive the distance without getting beat up too much.

Lewis himself said he felt very uncomfortable during that first round against Tyson. I'd hate to see how hed feel against the Tyson of 14 years prior

 

Douglas> Mcall> Lewis, deal with it :hi:

He would/could have surived, im not arguing that, but between them they won a handful of rounds, they survived at the expense of their attack as soon as they opened up they knew torpedos would be flying. Lewis would do the same, hes big enough to last to safety, if he opens up Tyson takes care of him.

When did Tyson say that? Tyson said a lot of stuff just to be nice.

Realistically this fight could have happened earliest in 96, after Tyson won the belts, he wanted the lucrative fight with Holyfield, after that he was banned for 2 years, returned in '99, then was banned again after the Golota fight due to marijuana in his system and then returned against Nielson.

Mercer hadnt been in prison for 4 years, in boxing of all sports, that takes a lot from you.

Well Tyson didnt have any desire left to fight anyway, hes already said that after the second Holyfield fight. Lewis just plucked him from the sidelines to cement his 'legacy'

Do you honestly think a younger Tyson would have gone back to his corner like that? Both Bruno and Tucker rocked Tyson in the first round of their fights, Tyson didnt go back crying did he?

Lewis prime normally is seen around 97-00, Tysons was 86-88. You do the maths. Tyson was 14 years away from when he beat Michael Spinks.

Who was Lewis in '96? the guy who struggled against Ray Mercer (the Tyson wannabe) and was Kod by Tysons sparring partner Mcall.

Tyson went for Holyfield fights because there was a ton of money involved, he made $30m+ x2 for the Holyfield fights. He would have got peanuts for Lewis in 96.

Tyson paid Lewis $4m for loss of earnings for not giving him a shot as he was supposed to.

 

Buster Douglas always was better than Mcall and Berbick was better than Rahman

Funny how Lewis should be forgiven for the Mcall loss because he wasnt with Manny Steward, but you dont afford the same excuse to Tyson against Douglas, after he left Rooney?

Lewis was 35 when he got Kod by Rahman and thats ok, Tyson was 30 when he was stopped by Holyfield, after spending 4 years in prison.

Tyson was 36 when he was stopped by Lewis and that was 14 years from when he beat Spinks (according to most, the pinnacle of his career)

Double standards there.

 

That about sums it up. Douglas is usually written off as being a "bum" but this is a misconception largely due to the fact that he was such a heavy underdog. In reality he had been a ranked contender for quite sometime before fighting Tyson.

 

Douglas was a 'bum' wholly because he was facing Mike Tyson.
As you said, Douglas wasnt a bum and he was on a good run before facing Tyson. And he did beat Mcall, before Lewis had even turned pro.

Id rather be known for being stopped by Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis than Mcall and Rahman

 

Go f-ck yourself.

 

And obviously Lewis has no excuses for his losses does he? oh wait he does, you've already posted them.

Mr Magoo is a much more respected poster around these parts than you.

And you expect people to take you seriously?

go on, off you go, back to General where you belong

 

When someone starts swearing during a debate, you know theyre dishonest.

 

Nah.. I was being honest. I really DO want him to go f-ck himself.

 

I was actually referring to him swearing during his rebuttals,
normally a sign that theyre beginning to crack.


Like i was about to, against an idiot who claimed Tysons era was nothing and someone like Ray Mercer could easily have done the same thing atsch