90 Holyfield vs 71 Ali

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Who wins

Poll closed Jan 3, 2024.
  1. Ali

    67.7%
  2. Holyfield

    32.3%
  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who wins this one

    Holyfield from Buster Douglas fight.

    Ali from first Frazier fight
     
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  2. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Need to change the title. I changed my vote when I read the criteria about the years.

    In 91, Holy struggled with Bert Cooper. Ali beats that version. But, in 1990, the year of his showing against Douglas which is the Evander we are being asked to consider, he looked at his absolute best.

    There is a photo of Ali in Feb 1971 where he has a big gut and it's only weeks away from the FotC. A fighter in that shape does not get in the kind of shape within a month that he'd need to be in to beat the Holyfield who fought Douglas.

    There is only quite a fine margin between the best Ali and the best Holyfield. Ali wasn't there yet in 1971.
     
  3. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    71 Ali by a decision for me
     
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  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali by decision.
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I have to go with Ali. 1971 was the year he fought Frazier. Based on how old Holmes battled Holyfield to a near standstill, I think 29 year old Ali could do one better. Neither one is stopping the other, so Ali by UD.
     
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  6. 20thCenturyBox

    20thCenturyBox Member Full Member

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    If you have 2023 standard VADA drug testing then would Holyfield be allowed to fight?
     
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  7. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    I am putting my money on the best possible version of 71 Ali (no belly fat).
     
  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Ali lands half the punishment on Evander that he hit Frazier with Holyfield stays on his stool in the 13th round
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    This could be like the Norton - Ali fights for me. Hard fought, both men determined to win.
    Ali gets a split win.
     
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic War for Souls Full Member

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    If the fight is in 12 rounds (and it is not specified) I will pick Holyfield, if it is in 15 rounds - Muhammad Ali wins.
     
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  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali by decision, by a 10-5, 9-6.
     
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  12. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’ve said before that on that particular night in NYC in March 1971, Ali might have been able to beat any other heavyweight that’s ever been on the planet except the rage-driven guy in front of him. He beats Holyfield up, 9-5-1 or something thereabouts.
     
  13. Joeywill

    Joeywill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like this. Many people tend to discredit Fraizers win.
     
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  14. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    This would be one heck of a fight! I am going with Muhammad Ali by a very close decision win, with some thinking Holyfield was robbed.
     
  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield on points
     
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