90's Foreman vs Prime Bruno

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  1. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    So this match up is an intriguing one to me as I was watching some Foreman comeback fights earlier and the one in England where he fought Terry Anderson had Bruno commentating and it got me thinking, who would win this one...

    I am not sure what the consensus opinion of the board as to when Bruno's prime actually was, the illustrious title eluded him until their was finally someone at the helm that he could defeat, McCall 1995... I tend to think the Bruno who challenged Witherspoon in 86 or Tyson in 89 may have actually been the "Prime" Bruno but regardless of that you use the best Bruno in your eyes.. So how do you guys see him doing against the come backing Foreman of the late 80's and on thru the 90's...

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  2. lefe

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    I think George Foreman.Bruno wasn't very fast and didn't move fast.Bruno had decent power but George punches was harder and his chin in second career was granite.George by KO,TKO.I'm talking about George vs Cooney,Holyfield,Quavy.Foreman after Holyfield fight wasn't that good.
     
  3. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Yeah I pick Foreman to KO Bruno as well..

    The better chin of Foreman would be the difference..
     
  4. lefthook31

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    I dont think Bruno has the stamina but it wouldnt end till the later rounds when Foreman stops him around the 10th.
     
  5. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    This is almost a 50/50 fight in my opinion, Foreman could be outboxed, and Frank was a good boxer when he got into his groove. He also holds the slight speed advantage. I could see this fight becoming a battle of the jabs in the early going, as both had great ones.

    The most likely scenario is Foreman hitting Bruno with something big late in the fight, and him freezing up and being stopped again (while ahead on the cards).
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Bruno decision, this Foreman is just too slow, ofcourse he has a punchers chance, especially down the staight but Bruno himself could hurt and maybe KO Old Foreman, he may well put Foreman in a shell
     
  7. Sister Sledge

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    I pick Bruno. Bruno was a pretty good boxer, and his chin was better than given credit for. People underrate Bruno's power, too, which I don't know why. The guy was a big hitter. People keep saying that Bruno would gas, but Big George never set a fast pace, so I don't think Frank would be totally gassed. One thing to worry about is the fact that Foreman's face puffed up in the 90's, so George could possibly be busted up by Big Frank.
     
  8. KOTF

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    Bruno by late round TKO loss, where Bruno thinks this is Bonecrusher Smith all over again
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    three things.

    #1. I think Bruno was worlds better than Alex Stewart.

    #2. 1990s George foreman would never have beaten (and never would have fought) any of the fighters Bruno lost to.
    #3. Old foreman would never have taken a bruno fight in the 1990s.

    That said foreman was much stronger mentally than frank - and that goes a long way, but why did old George not consider contracts with heavyweights like Ruddock, lewis, bowe and brunos name on it?
     
  10. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The best 90's Foreman (circa 1991) beats prime Bruno. Frank would build up an early lead behind the jab and some good right crosses. After a while though,it would be business as usual. Bruno would start tiring and leave himself open to George's still powerful shots. Old George,by the tenth.

    By the way,I consider the time of Frank's prime to have been 1989.
     
  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Bowe early .... George would never consider fighting Lewis or Bowe ... no shot ...
     
  12. TBooze

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    As I mentioned in the Holmes/Bruno thread, The Bomber's Stamina issue was IMO, stress related rather than down to poor conditioning.

    I do not see the Foreman of the 90s being able to pressure the fight to put Bruno under the sort of pressure that would cause Frank stamina issues.

    As for the chin, Bruno had a good chin; his issue was he lacked the survival instincts of a natural fighter, as Bruno was basically a programmed robot in the ring. The fighters that caused Bruno issues were not always the biggest bombers, but the fighters with fair digs and fast hands, as they respond instantly when the big man was stunned.

    Foreman had excellent power and no doubt could hurt The Bomber, but could he follow up with the speed say of a Witherspoon, Tyson or Lewis and get the job done? Because Bruno was not often taken out with one punch (maybe the Lewis fight being the exception, but even then Lewis followed up quickly after landing the hook).

    I see Bruno dominating early, tiring in the later rounds, but doing enough damage early on for Foreman to be unable to quite get the job done. Bruno W10; WU12.
     
  13. TBooze

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    he grant; Historian/Film maker/Dyslexic...;)
     
  14. zadfrak

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    Good points and that's the problem with assuming George goes thru the guy for the big ko. I think at the least, Foreman has to dig deep to win this.

    But Foreman holds a huge advantage in the strength department and he sure knew how to use it. I think he can walk Bruno around and tire those legs and shoulders and just be physically dominating whenever he wants to. And that's the part that empties the Bruno gastank.

    The other big factor in this match are those Foreman uppercuts. Anyone with success against George did not get hit by them and took that punch away. Trouble is he throws them with both hands and off the wrong foot even. I see big problems with the Bruno defense against those uppercuts. I'd like Frank's chances a ton more if he didn't freeze when hit and if he could do like Morrison and take those uppercuts away with angles/lateral movement and smarts. It just seems like asking Frank to pull that off for 30 or 36 minutes is asking too much and those uppercuts are a bigger concern than Foreman's jab.
     
  15. choklab

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    I watched brunos entire career and he was super strong himself. I would say for raw strength lennox lewis, bruno, foreman and bonecrusher smith were among the strongest heavyweights ever. IMO any edge would be negligable in this department. Bruno pushed Lewis and crusher around even though both beat him. foreman was smart enough never to fight anyone as strong as himself.