95-05 Tyson had no heart

Holyfield wasn't in his prime either, had just come off looking like crap against an opponent who didn't belong in there with a top heavyweight.

Evander was the underdog for a reason. They were BOTH past it, and Holyfield beat Tyson down.

I think that is more than enough evidence that an earlier fight between them could have been extremely competitive.

I'd pick Holyfield, because I know personally how hard it is to face down a good, strong opponent who won't go away, and rather than trying to survive, is hitting you in the face. Tyson faced only one of those in Ruddock(Though technically twice). Evander was better than Ruddock.

I think '91 is a pick em. The odds on that fight should not be steep either side.

 

Not at all. He was tryng to get out after the first couple of rounds. He was crying and complaining to the referee and even tried to butt and ask to see the ring doctor himself at one point.

He was a bully exposed.

Tyson never wanted to box after Buster Douglas. He went on because it was expected of him and he could make a busload of $$.

 

Ya Think?

He bit his ear off once and got another chance by the referee. Was told if you do it again the fights over. He does it again a few seconds later. He wanted out of the ring. He had a cut but he wasnt the first fighter to have to deal with that.

Talking about the post prison version of Tyson the OP is pretty much spot on.

 

Physically he took a good beating. Nevermind that he stopped throwing punches and trying to win the fight about haflway through the 2nd round. Tyson had a glass mind more than anything.

but at least he didnt try to foul his way out of the fight or just jump out of the ring. For a bully with no heart I guess thats progress.

 

This is so true. Tommy Brooks spent most of this time shaking his head in disbelief with Tyson. The guys in camp were horrible especially Jay Bright who refused to step back even when Brooks came in. Tyson was grumpy, would show up late, or not at all and leave everyone standing around waiting for him. They had to baby Tyson because he was just so miserable in boxing, but Brooks brought the best out of him with what he was working with.
He knew Tyson wasnt in great shape so he tried to get him to punch and step off to the side. Even though Tyson was throwing one shot at a time he was trying to keep him in a good defensive position when he finished and that allowed Tyson to look a little better in fights and not get hit as often.

 

Barring he's not a Foreman Hook clone, I think the original thread starter was looking for some well defined and thought out answers and he definitely got them. I'm guessing he wasn't around during the ups and downs of the Tyson rollercoaster ride before the prison stint. THAT Tyson was a different animal. Regarding a pre-prison Tyson against Holyfield...Tyson TKO8.

 

'89 would have been more telling.

 

I swear it is NOT me - even i give Midget Lisp more credit than he - Tinkerbell went to BRUTAL WAR with OG Holy for teh first 5 Rounds, then was one hell of a human-punchbag :!: for teh next 6 rounds, barring his proper mint comeback in Round 10. AND VS Lenny Lion, Tinkerbell came ****-hot outta teh gate in Round 1, even with all teh sloppiness And mis-directed haymakers, then took a proper savage ravaging :ko for teh next 7 Rounds. I dunno man, i used to joke about Tyson having no heart - But you do NOT take BRUTALISING BATTERINGS like that without a canny decent Heart. :!: He could of just quit on his stool when he was well behind, GASSED And taking an ass-whupping, but he continued to eat lead And went down on his shield like a dead soulja. I did USED TO say Tyson showed no heart cos of biting Holyfield - But i have since decided it was ROID-RAGE from juicing way too much, And his soaring Testosterone-levels blew past teh boiling point as teh red mist descended like a nuclear firestorm.


Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:rasta

 

ACTUALLY his trainer Jeffy "Fecking Useless" Fennech quit on his behalf, cos he was proper worried Tinkerbell Tyson was gonna bite off Bummy MCbride's ear lobe off from anger (i read it in a interview in some boxing mag in 2006), from all teh 1,000,000 ILLEGAL Hugging/Leaning-Per-Round from teh 271LB LARDASS sack of ****! ALSO Fennech did admit he made a BIG MISTAKE teaching/telling Tinkerbell to throw arm-punches instead of power-punches, to save energy, cos "Toxic Waste" Tyson (yeah even Hook knows Tyson was shot-to-****ing-****) still GASSED proper fast as ****, And could NOT badly rock teh Glass Jawed Disgraceful Tomato Can Oaf with his shitty arm-punches.

And i did see this quote from Tinkerbell himself -

"I felt like I was 120 years old. I don`t think I have it anymore." (On his embarrassing loss to Irish journeyman Kevin McBride, June 11, 2005.)


Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:hat

 

C'mon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Tyson had heart,,,,,,,,,,,,he just didn't have the skills anymore.

 

I swear it is NOT me - even i give Midget Lisp more credit than he - Tinkerbell went to BRUTAL WAR with OG Holy for teh first 5 Rounds, then was one hell of a human-punchbag for teh next 6 rounds, barring his proper mint comeback in Round 10. AND VS Lenny Lion, Tinkerbell came ****-hot outta teh gate in Round 1, even with all teh sloppiness And mis-directed haymakers, then took a proper savage ravaging for teh next 7 Rounds. I dunno man, i used to joke about Tyson having no heart - But you do NOT take BRUTALISING BATTERINGS like that without a canny decent Heart. He could of just quit on his stool when he was well behind, GASSED And taking an ass-whupping, but he continued to eat lead And went down on his shield like a dead soulja. I did USED TO say Tyson showed no heart cos of biting Holyfield - But i have since decided it was ROID-RAGE from juicing way too much, And his soaring Testosterone-levels blew past teh boiling point as teh red mist descended like a nuclear firestorm.


Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!

Just when I thought it was safe to post in a Tyson thread again^^^

 

Foreman Hook, you're obsessed with Tyson. If you really hated him, you would not address every thread that has him in the title would you?

 

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Obviously you do as you insult him every chance you get and are always by his sack like underwear. Assuming he wears them. Anyways, you're obsessed.

 

I won't deny it.