A better heart; Holyfield or Frazier?

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Who has a better heart; Holyfield or Frazier?

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  1. Holyfield

  2. Frazier

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  1. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly my point. Both men were warriors to the 10th power.
     
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  2. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I voted for Holyfield because of all the prolonged wars and fights against the likes of Riddick Bowe, Mike Tyson, Michael Dokes, Lennox Lewis, George Foreman who still hit like a cannonball, Sultan ibragimov, Nikolai Valuev and all but it was very hard...how can one quantify these men's hearts? No weight scales can measure such huge hearts...
     
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  3. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty easy if you ask me. One was a drug cheat and the other one wasn't.
     
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  4. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Impossible to answer for me......I'll go with a draw!
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ummmmmmmmmmm please advise what fight Evander ever gave up in because I have not seen this fight.

    Evander (especially old-Vander) has been hopelessly outgunned a number of times and I've never seen the fire in his eyes fade even when the body had nothing left to push out.

    I don't think either's heart could be measured...........
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    The difference for me was the " Evan Fields" saga That ruined his character like it ruined Mosely's & Jones jr both were caught red handed. But all 3 escaped a just punishment . Hence the Boxing is Corrupt Theories
     
  7. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pretty similar. But Holyfield fought some much bigger guys, consistently.
     
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  8. Walcott

    Walcott Active Member Full Member

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    The million dollar question is just how many others were at it at the time. Holyfield was clearly a drug cheat, it sounds terrible, not so much if others were as well. I genuinely believe Mike Tyson was on PED's from an early age.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    When I was in Texas a guy there a body builder type named Chassie who was hired to help Kirk Johnson. He had done the same for Evander to help him build up. It was not long after Vander had his heart scare & claimed a TV evangelist had cured him Chassie swore that's what happened it was a miracle Vander was cured, his heart problems gone.. Chassie sure helped Vander muscle up except they said he had skinny legs LOL
    Chassie laughed & said Ive never seen a fighter who had over developed legs. they wouldn't help him just hinder him.
    Wasn't long after that Vander was caught up in the Evan Fields saga & Chassie had moved on . He seemed genuine in his belief that evangelist cured Vander . Some said Vanders heart problem was caused by the steroids . I wonder where Chassie is now he was a nice guy & built like brick outhouse lol Hope he's doing well
     
  10. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    Frazier because he shown his courage without sticking needles in his arse