a bigger fighter and a smaller fighter get it on, what weight should they fight at?

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  1. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :thumbsup Exactly!!!!
     
  2. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    A fair point!
     
  3. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Had Marquez stipulated that in the contract (well, first of all, Mayweather would have walked away laughing from the negotiation table, but let's say Marquez had clout and Mayweather's balls in a vice) he'd be an absolute scumbag and would lose at least one huge fan.

    The onus is not on the bigger man to earn credit in these situations - he has men his own size that he can worry about, and if a smallfry wants to challenge him all he needs to do is stay right where he is and let the smallfry come to him. It is 100% on the smaller man's shoulders to prove something by moving up. Otherwise stay in your own weight range.

    The reason the larger man doesn't need to prove anything is because the risk/reward ratio is radically different for him. Or, more accurately, the reward-to-penalty ratio.

    I'll explain. If a small guy beats a big guy at the big guy's weight - well, it's just good-big-beats-good-small logic. Not a major deal. No great knock or embarrassment on the small guy, nor does the big guy get a ton of credit. If the small guy beats the big guy at the big guy's weight - the small guy gets MASSIVE reward, and the big guy gets MASSIVE penalty, huge embarrassment.

    That system's fine like it is. Weight draining is dangerous and unhealthy and should be avoided period, not least of all because in situations like this it alters the landscape of reward-to-penalty ratios and places an automatic asterisk next to the result.
     
  5. haglerwon

    haglerwon Official GTMSBT Marquez Full Member

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    It depends what they're fighting over.

    If they're just fighting for kicks, they should fight according to whatever rules they can both agree on.

    If they're fighting for titles / belts, they should fight according to the weight rules governing those titles / belts. If a smaller man wants a larger man's belt, he should be prepared to win it under the same weight conditions the older man had to win it under, and vice versa.
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Philla if you put it that way than Catchweight
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    The only answer can be the challenger has to make the champion's weight.
     
  8. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    a catchweight but not for the respective tilte
     
  9. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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    Pacquiao has proven himself against Cotto. He can handle a welter, he needs to fight at welter. This is insane Clottey can barely make 147 now he's being asked to make 144. I hope Clottey doesn't sign that ****.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    well isn't that exactly what's happening with Pac vs Clottey and Pac vs Floyd?
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I disagree strongly with the 2 middle paragraphs. I wanna see fights where both fighters are considered on the same plateau. Where the big guy has as much to gain as the little guy.

    They way you put it means that if Floyd beats PAcquiao at 147, it doesn't mean he is a better fighter, because he is the bigger guy and he has nothing to gain from winning the fight. I'd rather see Pac and Floyd fight at a weight where they can get it on and we can say "well the playing field was even so we know that the winner is the better fighter period."