"A boxers career never really begins until after his first loss"

you cant generalize every boxer in one quote

its a reference to how they respond to the loss

look at amir khan for instance... one loss and his career went uphill

 

Calzaghe never even existed...fancy that.

 

Mayweather knows what the phrase means - he rematched JLC straight away, didn't he?

 

That they, Marciano and Mayweather, are an exception to that rule.

But I do agree that a first loss, or an extremely difficult fight that came close to it, is a bigger learning experiencing than almost anything else in boxing. It can make you accept the brutal truths about your abilities as a fighter, and force you to make the necessary changes that are needed.

 

Tysons career was over pretty much after he lost

 

A "loss" Early is is Waaaaaaaaaaaaayyy different than losing in the twilight.
(Such as Mayweather & Marciano were at the point of still being undefeated.)

 

these fighters give their all and have focus like no other and train their hardest in camp, so there's is no "Oh I lost, I'm going to train harder next time."

Also in Floyd's case, he uses his perfect record as motivation

 

Some fighters never really do recover after a loss, history proves this. Others, it makes them hungrier to fix things and bounce back. What if BHop had quit after losing was it his very first fight? I think losing is good for fighters and this "0" thing is ridiculous. There are lots of great fighters out there that have lost only to comeback and dominate. Wlad is a prime example. Sure he got laid out a few times, but seemingly when he became a man was in the first Peter fight, he refused to quit and has been very unstoppable since. The losses made him drive for more than he ever was before the losses. Its a fair saying, but of course doesn't apply to guys who have remained unbeaten, but theres really not many of them.

 

that's just two guys, out of how many??? and how many people disect their careers and give them never ending sh*t for that?

same can be said for guys like Wlad, BHop or Pacquiao, they've lost but now they are on top of the sport...

sometimes a loss can humble a fighter, make them rededicate themselves and improve on what they were lacking. it can make them a more complete fighter, or sometimes it can ruin them like Pavlik...

 

Just look at guys like Barrera after Junior Jones or Jose Luis Castillo losing to Jauregui and Soto. Alexis Arguello and Salvador Sanchez come to mind. All these guys became elite fighters transforming and fighting at a level they probably never thought they'd achieve. I really hoped Cotto could of reached that higher level, but I don't think he fully recovered. I know he took a beating, but so did Barrera, Castillo, and Arguello. Really had high hopes for that guy.

 

Some Fighters like Mike Weaver, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Bugner are forced to address this issue from the off, ! i suppose some of the early weight of expectation is taken off their shoulders and they can progress and learn their trade at a less demanding rate.

 

Yeah motivation to avoid the best WW's out there. He should allow Pac to start his career

 

this...^