A boxing question: who's better historically?

This is a really great thread because I don't think anyone has ever asked this before, and I can't remember anyone doing a similar thread on this site ever.

 

Not so fast
Pacman is not done yet
Pacman has a plan and its not laying down

 

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1. 1st Asian and Filipino 3-division major world champion (3 major world titles in 3 different weight classes).
2. 1st Asian and Filipino 4-division major world champion (4 major world titles in 4 different weight classes).
3. 1st Asian and Filipino simultaneous 2-division major world champion (2 major world titles in 2 different weight classes at the same time). While reigning as the WBC Super Featherweight champion, Pacquiao won the lightweight counterpart just a few months later.
4. 1st Asian and Filipino to win 3 consecutive matches in 3 different weight classes within one year. Pacquiao could've been a simultaneous 3-division major world champion if his last opponent Oscar De La Hoya was a titlist at the division. The feat was widely considered reminiscent of the past simultaneous 3-division reign of American Henry Armstrong.
5. 1st 4-division lineal (or linear) world champion (4 lineal world titles in 4 different weight classes).
6. 1st Asian and Filipino 5-division major world champion (5 major world titles in 5 different weight classes).
7. 1st Asian and Filipino, and 2nd ever 6-division major world champion (6 major world titles in 6 different weight classes). First ever is American Oscar De La Hoya.
8. 1st consensus 7-division world champion (6 major world titles + 1 Ring title in 7 different weight classes).
9. 1st consensus 8-division world champion (6 major world titles + 2 Ring titles in 8 different weight classes).
10. 1st Asian and Filipino 10-time world champion (6 major + 3 Ring + 1 minor championship).
11. 1st Filipino major world champion at a particular weight class: WBC Lightweight, WBO Welterweight, WBC Super Welterweight.

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1. 1st Filipino athlete honored with official Philippine postage stamps, issued by the Philippine Postal Corporation (PhilPost) in 2008.
2. 1st Filipino non-Olympic participant to be Team Philippines' flag-bearer during the August 8 opening ceremonies of the 2008 Summer Olympics at the Beijing National Stadium in China. Filipino swimmer Miguel Molina, 2005 Southeast Asian Games Best Male Athlete, yielded the honor to Pacquiao, upon the request of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo to the national sports officials on the Philippines.
3. 1st Filipino bestowed with a star of Las Vegas Walk of Fame, which honors people of prominence in a variety of fields including entertainment, sports, literary, humanitarian, civic, military and pioneers.
4. 1st active professional boxer in the world elected as congressman. On May 13, 2010, Pacquiao was officially proclaimed and took oath of office as congressman before Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonio T. Carpio in the Provincial Capitol of Sarangani in Municipality of Alabel, Philippines.
5. 1st boxer inducted to the Elorde Sports Foundation's Elorde Boxing Hall of Fame, during the 8th Gabriel "Flash" Elorde Boxing Awards and Banquet of Champions night on March 25, 2008 at the Manila Hotel. Pres. Gloria-Macapagal-Arroyo handed the recognition to Pacquiao after he won a record straight 7-time, the Boxer of the Year honors of the aforementioned award-giving body.
6. 1st and only Filipino congressman and professional boxer personally met by the president of the United States of America. On Feb. 15, 2011 accompanied by Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada, Rep. Manny Pacquiao of Sarangani, Philippines and his wife Jinkee had a meeting with US Pres. Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, and Vice-Pres. Joe Biden at the Oval Office of the White House in Washington DC, USA.
7. 8th Filipino featured on the cover of Time Asia magazine November 2009 issue, labeled The Great Hope. After former Philippine presidents Manuel L. Quezon, Ramon Magsaysay, Ferdinand E. Marcos, Corazon C. Aquino, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, Benigno C. Aquino III, and Filipina actress Chin Chin Gutierrez.
8. 1st Filipino featured on MTV Cribs, an American TV show featuring various stylish residences of famous celebrities.

 

More Manny milestones:

Ranked 2nd Most Stylish Filipino after Imelda Marcos

 

go on floyd, put 'em in their place...

 

I think pac man is better P4P but floyd is obviously better H2H

 

. I created it when I was a little younger, so it is quite outdated, hence more formal-sounding. Especially since he is a senator now and I haven't followed his accomplishments and recognitions anymore.

 

King of the Catchweights? Might wanna do some investigating there.

 

Both great fighters

There is a case for manny being greater, but floyd was better

Both are definite ATG fighters

 

I think Pac has surpassed him with the win over Thurman. Floyd would almost always win heads up but Manny's weight jumping and longevity make the difference. Same reason Duran is better than Leonard historically.

 

Objectively I think Pac, despite the fact that Floyd would always beat him and is "better" than him.

It's like Sandy Saddler and Willie Pep, Pep is considered better historically (and he is) but Saddler was his boogeyman. Floyd is better h2h, but not historically,