A Case for Ray Leonard being rated over Duran - An Analysis

I agree wioth that. And like I sad resumewise they are very equal. Leonard's is better at the very top, Duran's is deeper. Dominance and longevity and achievements (fighting with success at higher weights while beeing older and so on) put Duran above Leonard.

btw. I don't rate Chavez that far behind Lenoard.

 

i don't know who this is but let's go back to Lola Fallana for me!:good

 

T.S. Elliot was a writer and criic ... and a man

 

I'm black and I definitely rate Duran over Leonard.

 

I cannot see how Leonard could rate over Duran ?

 

It is indeed sad that duran chose to 'quit' in 1980 (he would have lost anyway.) ,and its even sadder that an immediate rematch at 147 never materialised. For every excuse that leonard 'fought the wrong fight',we have the duran undertrained' line. Bearing in mind that if we say leonard 'learned' from the experience of duran,then duran must have learnt about fighting ray as well,so theoretically he could have beat ray easier next time. (and this point i have never heard made by anyone.) However,duran ****ed this up by not taking the rematch seriously enough,so 1-1. The third fight is meaningless in a 147 context as its at 160 and when both are much older.
The fact that its really 1-1 is why we still debate whether new orleans ray could beat montreal duran,did ray fight the wrong fight ,etc,etc. History can never give us that third immediate trilogy decider to set matters to rest,so,i will just say that when both were 100% up for it duran won clearly.
ps; in which other fight do you think ray looked 'better' all round than montreal leonard? (heart,guts,skill,power,stamina,will,etc)

 

This is very much a pro-Leonard stance though mate by the looks of it.

In short; yes, the case can be made for Leonard, if you're being unobjective. Interesting thread nonetheless:good

 

And duran was very competitive with that same middle,four years earlier and with a 135 frame. Let leonard lose a competitive decision to prime mike spinks and then we can talk...

 

Fair point yeah, but we all know the circumstances.

I take it you think he fights exactly the same way against prime Hagler and wins the decision?

 

You're not seriously suggesting that Leonard at middle was as good as Duran at welter? Surely, surely not??

 

If you seriously can't tell that a comment namedropping Missy Elliot and Paris Hilton was a joke, you need to get out more.

 

Agreed. Some peopleatsch

 

has anyone lived in a anyhow town-studied THAT Eliot in college. but don't know who missy is:hi: